De Rosa Titanio vs. Moots Vamoots RSL

[picstloup]

Originally Posted by pepper2K

I am aware of Bixxis.
Doriano Derosa makes stunning frames.
Unfortunately, fully exposed cabling and rim brakes
are deal breakers for me..
Thx anyway for sharing.

it's good we/you have lots of choice...me, i wanted exposed cables and rim brakes...go figure

[pepper2K]

Originally Posted by dbnm

Where do you live?

dbnm,
I am living in Korea.

[pepper2K]

Originally Posted by OtayBW

Cannot help you with these bikes, but your writing is MORE than fine. Welcome to the Paceline.

Thx for encouraging, the forum's very
welcoming!

[pepper2K]

Originally Posted by ERK55

Interesting that you may prefer the De Rosa “price wise”.
In the USA the De Rosa list price is more than $2,000 over the Moots.

Well... I am from Korea.
Sadly, the distributor for the Moots here is selling the frameset at a ridiculous price of $8.8K

[colker]

Baum is in Australia. Closer to you.

[pepper2K]

Originally Posted by Matthew

Admittedly I am a Moots fanboy as I have two of them. Absolutely cannot go wrong with one. Would be my choice but again I am biased. Great bikes and company. Someone answers the phone when you call. They've been doing ti for what seems forever. I've got nearly 25k miles on my Compact and it rides as great as it did in it's first mile. Looks great too after 11 years of use. I'm sure the De Rosa is a great bike too but I have no knowledge of that model. Congratulations, it will be a great bike either way you go!! And welcome to the forum. Lots of love for Moots here! Matthew

I can see that Moots is truely loved by many.
Thank you for detailed feedback!!

[hkgmatt]

I’m based in Hong Kong and bought a Moots directly from them two years ago. There is no need to go through the local distributor. The process couldn’t have been easier and the bike (Routt RSL) awesome.

[pepper2K]

Originally Posted by veloduffer

I’d would also vote for Bingham, Kish and Seven. On just weld quality, Brad Bingham is in a different class. His non finished beadwork is better other ti builders after they’ve finished. It’s why he has so many NAHBS rewards.

The above can build custom generally for the price of Moots. I’ve had or have all the above (as well as a Mosiac). They are all good bikes. Don’t overthink it - think of how you want the finish and geometry.


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veloduffer, I've seen picture's of Mr.Bingham's welding...
What a beauty. Many people are appreciative of the quality of Bingham Built,
I will look into it. Thank you.

[pepper2K]

Originally Posted by Mike V

I pretty sure Doriano does both of those. He said he could when I talked to him at NAHBS. Who taught his nephew to build De Rosa's? Who do you think the guys at Moots got inspiration from to build titanium road frames?

If it was me I'd get a Bixxis. The quality and price of the bikes out of a two person shop! He is a real gentleman in person and I think he runs an honest business.


Search Ryan on this forum. He has some Bixxis bikes that look amazing. He seems very piticular and keeps ordering more of them.

Thank you for the info. I will definitely check with Doriano!
If those two options are available from Bixxis, I could choose to buy one from Doriano.

[seedster2]

Cannot go wrong with either choice.

I have dealt with De Rosa via Cicli Corsa for my Black Label Protos and it was smooth process. I am based in the US and could not recommend the De Rosa enough for customer service.

[pepper2K]

Originally Posted by seedster2

Cannot go wrong with either choice.



I have dealt with De Rosa via Cicli Corsa for my Black Label Protos and it was smooth process. I am based in the US and could not recommend the De Rosa enough for customer service.

Thank you for sharing your experience.
Could you briefly tell me how the black label customized bike is made? Does De rosa or the distributor ask you for measurements to figure out the frame size? or do you have to present your own geometry to the them? (Effective Top Tube Length and etc...)
Lastly,I have to pay extra bucks for the service right?

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[rlanger]

Can't comment specifically on the bikes in question, but I am a De Rosa owner and I too have had nothing but excellent experiences with their customer service.

Also, while my frame is carbon and not titanium (although I would love the Anima), I can assure you that the manufacturing quality and paint are both of the highest quality.

And, best of all the bike rides like a dream.

[soulspinner]

It seems a no lose proposition. Although Im a Campy guy and love DeRosas it hard to vote against Moots. Please post what you buy and explain your choice, This is a tough decision!

[Veloo]

Is that $8.8K in US dollars?

Originally Posted by pepper2K

Well... I am from Korea.
Sadly, the distributor for the Moots here is selling the frameset at a ridiculous price of $8.8K

[mhinson]

Hello,

Congrats on the decision to purchase a new bike! You have decided on two great options. I am fond of both as I have a Moots Vamoots and a De Rosa King 3 road bike. I would not part with either one of them as they are my fav's!

I have always wanted a De Rosa Ti bike even though I have a Moots. If you have a line or access to a De Rosa Ti I would go that route if I were you. I think the exclusitivity and heritage of the brand can't be beat. You will see a few Moots rolling around but, I don't think you will see another De Rosa Ti on a group ride.

My two cents...

Have fun!