Frame builder rec

[DarkStar]

Originally Posted by Blue Jays

Oh my goodness...sorry that you have been put into this precarious position with this person.
Can you please call the framebuilders to graciously advise them not take his calls as a courtesy?
Sounds like negative energy to me.

Yep.

[pdmtong]

Your friend seems to be focused on the fabrication.

Is he ready for feedback on his fit?

I have spoken to several individuals who ordered custom Speedvagens. In some cases Sacha prescribed a fit (based on direct observation at a fit tour) that was different from what the rider was used to. These were in the areas you might expect: saddle height, bar reach, bar drop. IN all cases rider adapted to and embraced the new fit after some initial break-in period. But make no mistake, it was a change that required digestion.

I'd be more concerned about the fit than than the fabrication.

[Aaron O]

Originally Posted by pdmtong

Your friend seems to be focused on the fabrication.

Is he ready for feedback on his fit?

I have spoken to several individuals who ordered custom Speedvagens. In some cases Sacha prescribed a fit (based on direct observation at a fit tour) that was different from what the rider was used to. These were in the areas you might expect: saddle height, bar reach, bar drop. IN all cases rider adapted to and embraced the new fit after some initial break-in period. But make no mistake, it was a change that required digestion.

I'd be more concerned about the fit than than the fabrication.

I - think - he’ll be open to that feedback.

Similar story - when I ordered my marnati, Daniele suggested 56cm, which was larger than I was accustomed to. We agreed 55, and he built it 56cm anyway. He was right, and I’ve sized up since.

[cmbicycles]

Originally Posted by Aaron O

Engin does some nice stuff, and the owner is a truly passionate guy. Honestly, he lost me when he started talking architectural design.

I’m not a visual person generally, and know squat about that area.

I think Drew only works in Ti at the moment.

[Hawker]

Originally Posted by flashunc

he should go with whoever in philly talked to him for more than 5 minutes a didnt immediately look like they were looking for the fire exit or a way out of the conversation.

It sounds exhausting.

lol

[pdmtong]

Originally Posted by Aaron O

I - think - he’ll be open to that feedback.

Similar story - when I ordered my marnati, Daniele suggested 56cm, which was larger than I was accustomed to. We agreed 55, and he built it 56cm anyway. He was right, and I’ve sized up since.

Your Marnati is really beautiful. And, it's orange! I had forgotten about your Vanilla CX...all the Sacha CX were straight fork so yours is "correct".

We all are used to what we are used to. Maybe our fit has changed. Maybe our fit should change. I'm no expert but I can tell you that I was once riding a 54 with fit #1, got looked at by an "expert" who changed me to fit #2. Then another expert asked me why am I on a 54? "you should be on a 56!" So I tried the 56 and what a difference. This was a long time ago when I was primarily windsurfing and mountain biking. Looking back, I had no idea I was that far off. I certainly would not order a custom without knowing my fit, being open to change, and finally trusting the builder's fit philosophy.