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Old 10-20-2024, 12:35 PM
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true retro-style bibs out there (thin pad)? alternative to Kurcharik

I'm finally up to a 30-mile ride, and am finding that my body (which is still 25lbs overweight) much prefers the old-school super thin terry or leather chamois. I have one set of etxe ondo bibs that fits fat me which has that type of pad. Everything modern with thicker pads doesn't feel as good, or outright pinches me. I've tried PI, Pactimo, Primal, Rapha; but anything with bulk to the pad bothers me. I will say I bought a Q36.5 here and it was a bit tight so haven't ridden in it yet--maybe if I loose 5-10 I'll give it a go.

Kucharik is apparently out of business after decades, and they were the only place I knew that still offered a bib with a minimalist chamois.

I've bought several vintage bibs on ebay, but they are often not in "good" shape as advertised. Maybe ok to hang in a wall-display, but not for riding.

I've found a local alteration shop that does a good job repairing the failing seems (only $15 each repair), but the cost adds up. Some of the vintage stuff the lycra is failing and thinning, so also not really rideable--I'm about to ask the tailor shop to swap out pads from a lycra-failed bib into a not-lycra failed one.

The only fun part about this has been finding deals on vintage team kit from the earlier days of my following pro-cycling. (probably 1984 onwards).

Appreciate any links if anyone still makes such bibs. Or if you've got old but still serviceable bibs squirreled away and want to part with them.
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Old 10-20-2024, 12:38 PM
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this people may have something for you...
https://www.boure.com/1502.html
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Old 10-20-2024, 01:45 PM
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I have some Voler bibs with a thin chamois. I really like them. They weren't their low-end bibs either, but I'm not sure what the model is. Unfortunately, the coating on the fabric let loose and now they are transparent and have been relegated to trainer use.
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Old 10-20-2024, 02:42 PM
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this people may have something for you...
https://www.boure.com/1502.html
Ultra suede pro chamois is what I'd want!
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Old 10-20-2024, 02:44 PM
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I have some Voler bibs with a thin chamois. I really like them. They weren't their low-end bibs either, but I'm not sure what the model is. Unfortunately, the coating on the fabric let loose and now they are transparent and have been relegated to trainer use.
I should have added Voler to the list, I have 2 pair of theirs, terrible for me, but I'd certainly not call the chamois thin, so will take a look in case they have different models. I have several vintage bis that the pad feels great, but the lycra is getting see through, so no standing and climbing etc.
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Old 10-21-2024, 04:22 AM
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I'm finally up to a 30-mile ride, and am finding that my body (which is still 25lbs overweight) much prefers the old-school super thin terry or leather chamois. I have one set of etxe ondo bibs that fits fat me which has that type of pad. Everything modern with thicker pads doesn't feel as good, or outright pinches me. I've tried PI, Pactimo, Primal, Rapha; but anything with bulk to the pad bothers me. I will say I bought a Q36.5 here and it was a bit tight so haven't ridden in it yet--maybe if I loose 5-10 I'll give it a go.

Kucharik is apparently out of business after decades, and they were the only place I knew that still offered a bib with a minimalist chamois.

I've bought several vintage bibs on ebay, but they are often not in "good" shape as advertised. Maybe ok to hang in a wall-display, but not for riding.

I've found a local alteration shop that does a good job repairing the failing seems (only $15 each repair), but the cost adds up. Some of the vintage stuff the lycra is failing and thinning, so also not really rideable--I'm about to ask the tailor shop to swap out pads from a lycra-failed bib into a not-lycra failed one.

The only fun part about this has been finding deals on vintage team kit from the earlier days of my following pro-cycling. (probably 1984 onwards).

Appreciate any links if anyone still makes such bibs. Or if you've got old but still serviceable bibs squirreled away and want to part with them.
I don't know if they are thin enough for your purpose, but i learned -much to my surprise- when shopping for new good bibs after a hiatus of several years, that the best(?) -well at least most expensive- Assos models no longer had the thickest padding, but rather the opposite was true - the models designated as "Pro" had the thinnest padding.
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Old 10-21-2024, 06:39 AM
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this people may have something for you...
https://www.boure.com/1502.html
I like ultra suede chamois. It can be sewn into any bib, short or tight that Boure offers.
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Old 10-21-2024, 05:26 PM
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I ordered an on sale bib knicker. Should be perfect for the cooler morning rides here. If it works for me I may try to source the pads separately and have my local alteration shop swap them into shorts where I dislike the pad.
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Old 10-21-2024, 06:32 PM
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Sugoi

Sugoi is a brand you rarely hear about these days but I have a couple of bib knickers from them that are more than 10 years old, extremely comfortable and have a very thin chamois.
They have an active website so the are still in business but I can't really tell if the pads are as thin as the ones I have.
Might be worth a try if Boure doesn't work out.
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Old 10-21-2024, 06:34 PM
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Throwing out there the idea that when I commute, I wear shorts liners with very thin chamois and MTB shorts. You could just buy the liner and wear with a chamois-less bib? As an alternative, I have been told that tri bibs tend to have thinner pads for running reasons - no personal experience…
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