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I don't want a machine driving me, but like the overwhelming majority of drivers, I think I'm an above average driver.
I think if today 50% of cars were on autopilot, the accident rate with other cars, bikes and pedestrians would all be largely human error. Chances are there will be less of most kinds of accidents but slightly more of some, but I don't think cyclists will suffer unduly. None of us signed on to be participants in a AI training program, but we are already engaged in a massive teenager training program. A dozen AIs are going to cause fewer problems than a few million new teenagers every year. |
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Oooh, right. Sorry, I misquoted what was in the article. First fatality not in the car. ie. the victim was not a passenger in the autonomous car, but was an outside road user.
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My understanding is that Mercedes has already stated that this is their design principle (at least in simple terms, and I am not sure about the "at all costs" part). Still, this does not mean cyclists and possums wont be safer. How many cyclist deaths are caused because the driver chose to protect himself from injury? As far as the legal ramifications, I am sure that has been thought through; albeit maybe from a cynical cost/benefit perspective. There will be fewer lawsuits. On the other hand, law and ethics are most definitely behind the technology at this point, and not just for autonomous vehicles. |
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I wouldn't drive any car that fights me if I try to make corrections. To me the driving experience is fun. I like to feel the road, work the mechanics, and actually drive the car. Taking that experience away and turning me into a couch potato in a car has absolutely zero appeal to me. Nope, nada, zilch.
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i havent been paying attention to how this tech is evolving, but i just dont grasp the concept.
people are going to be expected to sit behind the wheel in a drivers seat and "pay attention" as if they were driving the car, but they are really not driving the car? i think there are only two good options 1) drive the car, full control 2) sit in the back seat and turn your attention fully off most people, myself included, just dont have the attention span to really pay attention to the road if they are not actually driving the car. i dont see how this "semi autonomous" mode could ever really work well. side note: i fell asleep on the train this morning. it was a lovely nap. no cyclists were at risk.
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The Volvo design philosophy basically says that the car has to be negotiate the situation at hand to a point where it is safe to hand control over to the driver, which I think means finding a place to pull over and fully stop the car. The idea of semi-autonomous driving is being pushed to sell cars, not because it is a well thought out system.
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This has nothing to do with electric cars . . .
. . . speficially. It's about autopilot design. Electric propulsion in particular--hopefully with advancing technology for renewables charging--is a developing area that shows great promise. Not sure why you would equate electric cars with robotic drivers? The two are only connected here because it's a Tesla.
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Unless autonomous vehicles allow teenagers to use both hands to throw bottles and cans at cyclists
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In the unavoidable...
What will the computer choose, back of the truck or the cyclist?
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