This looks better: Enve Aero Road Stem

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by Kontact

A $300 not-so-light stem seems like the perfect thing for someone who spent $9000 on a not-so-light Ottrott frameset.

Sometimes Paceline can be a bit schizophrenic in its loves and condemnations.

enve is smart... a lot of people running their forks (which are excellent) so then they get caught on the, I want the matching seatpost, the phallic handlebars and now they can match with the limp dick stem.

[Kontact]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

enve is smart... a lot of people running their forks (which are excellent) so then they get caught on the, I want the matching seatpost, the phallic handlebars and now they can match with the limp dick stem.

How did folks survive the days when their stem was Cinelli and their seat post Campagnolo?

[cadence90]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

enve is smart... a lot of people running their forks (which are excellent) so then they get caught on the, I want the matching seatpost, the phallic handlebars and now they can match with the limp dick stem.

Originally Posted by Kontact

How did folks survive the days when they stem was Cinelli and their seat post Campagnolo?

Well, for one thing, those folks were less less-virile, clearly.
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[Kontact]

Originally Posted by cadence90

Well, for one thing, those folks were less less-virile, clearly.
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I guess I just find it odd how the ever-evolving aesthetic rules of road cycling so often are in such perfect lockstep with the marketing push of product companies.


I predict that the use of bottle cages, stems or carbon rims that don't match your frame brand will be the next great offense, necessitating companies like Hed and Enve to get into the frameset business or become quiet OEM suppliers.

[cadence90]

Originally Posted by Kontact

I guess I just find it odd how the ever-evolving aesthetic rules of road cycling so often are in such perfect lockstep with the marketing push of product companies.


I predict that the use of bottle cages, stems or carbon rims that don't match your frame brand will be the next great offense, necessitating companies like Hed and Enve to get into the frameset business or become quiet OEM suppliers.

No kidding.

And haven't Ritchey, WR Compositi, China nudged that Pandora's door open...of course inevitably leading to...

THEALLRAPHAULTIMATEBICYCLE!
THEREREALLYJUSTISNOBETTERINTHEWHOLEWIDEWORLD!
ONLY$25,000TOTAL!
(NOTINCLUDINGTHESPECIALEDITIONMATCHINGKIT....)

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[Lewis Moon]

bUH-tUGLY

[eddief]

for us old guys. Wonder if those come from Specialized?

[skouri1]

I dont know. Surely, a narrower stem is slightly more aero. but I cant imagine there is a difference between the regular enve 6* stem and this stem in the 7* . Like, it must be 1W.

The 17* of course can make you more aero--IF your back can handle it.

The regular ENVE stem is functionally quite nice. Not sure its worth the $ though over a nicely finished alu stem (ritchey, 3t, etc) ...

[Kontact]

Originally Posted by skouri1

I dont know. Surely, a narrower stem is slightly more aero. but I cant imagine there is a difference between the regular enve 6* stem and this stem in the 7* . Like, it must be 1W.

The 17* of course can make you more aero--IF your back can handle it.

The regular ENVE stem is functionally quite nice. Not sure its worth the $ though over a nicely finished alu stem (ritchey, 3t, etc) ...

The real question is whether a 17° stem with a 1cm spacer underneath it is more aero than an angled stem that doesn't need the spacer to end up at the same handlebar height.

[cadence90]

And, just imagine just how many more aero-watts we could all save if that was a 26.0mm bar/stem combination rather than a 31.8mm bar/stem combination!

Right....
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[duff_duffy]

If this is the look you want with 26 bars go buy an old mutant stem, for some reason looks very similar to me and 10 times cheaper. Mutant=cool=+2 Watts

Originally Posted by cadence90

And, just imagine just how many more aero-watts we could all save if that was a 26.0mm bar/stem combination rather than a 31.8mm bar/stem combination!

Right....
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[Kontact]

Originally Posted by duff_duffy

If this is the look you want with 26 bars go buy an old mutant stem, for some reason looks very similar to me and 10 times cheaper. Mutant=cool=+2 Watts

I love my goofy Mutant stem.

[cadence90]

Originally Posted by duff_duffy

If this is the look you want with 26 bars go buy an old mutant stem, for some reason looks very similar to me and 10 times cheaper. Mutant=cool=+2 Watts

Originally Posted by Kontact

I love my goofy Mutant stem.

So, do we have a quorum?
Can we state that the Mutant stem is the cooler one?
Bonification points for yellow or red?
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[tommyrod74]

Originally Posted by Kontact

The real question is whether a 17° stem with a 1cm spacer underneath it is more aero than an angled stem that doesn't need the spacer to end up at the same handlebar height.

The real real question is whether either of those matter is one refuses to bend one’s elbows

[m4rk540]

They should have priced it at $600. They would sell twice as many.

Regardless of the price and aesthetics, the thing will be featured on 90% of the road type recognizable bikes featured on the MUSA fixated webthing called The Radavist.