I didn't realize there were a gazillion thru axles

[Veloo]

Found a few sources for the gauge.

https://soshanger.com/Thread-Star-Re...ead-identifier

https://www.universalcycles.com/shop....php?id=112224

https://www.bicycledropouts.com/bd-t11p

[Pegoready]

Originally Posted by Eli Bingham

FWIW I’m kind of surprised Habanero isn’t including this with your frame. I definitely consider this a part of a frameset - without one, the frameset is incomplete.

Exactly.

Or give you a very specific, slam dunk link to something that definitely works. Giving you a vague range like that is bogus.

[Ken Robb]

Thompson and I are way too old to care about this nonsense.

[NHAero]

Originally Posted by Pegoready

Exactly.

Or give you a very specific, slam dunk link to something that definitely works. Giving you a vague range like that is bogus.

Easy there, we'll get there! The company’s been great.

[spoonrobot]

Originally Posted by charliedid

Where do I get that?

Sorry for late response, was phone-posting and couldn't send the link. I got ours from Universal Cycles - which Veloo was kind enough to find and post the link above.

[Mr B]

Originally Posted by many_styles

Great... I'm looking to replace the ENVE TA with DT’s RWS. Any idea which one would be compatible? Do I need to but a washer/spacer?

Contact Enve, they should be able to give you the TA specs for your fork.
Or you could try https://robertaxleproject.com/axle-finder/

[nmrt]

Beware: Even though Robert Axle Project has "100% guarantee" that their thru axle will fit your frame when they recommend one after going through their search function, they were wroing in my case.

I recently bought a Seven which came with a DT-Swiss RWS Thru Axle. Since I prefered a bolt-on type, I took some pains in measuring the pitch (1 mm) of my DT-Swiss Thruaxle. Then, I went to Robert Axle, put in my bike model only to find out that the frame uses a 1.5 mm thru-axle with a 100% guarantee according to Robert. Befuddled, I was, to say the least. I had measured the pitch to be 1 mm specifically!

I called Seven, gave them the serial number, and found out that it indeed is 1 mm. Seven also told me without my asking that I should not believe Robert's axle recommendation for my model year.

Long story short: measure your thru axle pitch, the thread and the thru axle length, and whether you will need a conical or a flat spacer.

Originally Posted by Mr B

Contact Enve, they should be able to give you the TA specs for your fork.
Or you could try https://robertaxleproject.com/axle-finder/

[charliedid]

Thanks Veloo and MrB this will come in handy.

[Turbozinke]

Yeah it's like going back in time. We had a good universal method... now we have complication in incompatibility.

[unterhausen]

I'm not sure I understand why at least the thread pitch isn't a standard. Someone might be able to justify the length not being a standard. Maybe they thought of all the axle widths and just gave up.

[many_styles]

Originally Posted by Mr B

Contact Enve, they should be able to give you the TA specs for your fork.
Or you could try https://robertaxleproject.com/axle-finder/

To share with anyone else who has an ENVE fork: https://support.enve.com/hc/en-us/ar...XLE-DIMENSIONS


Hmmm, it’s not totally clear on DT’s end if their RWS would fit: https://www.dtswiss.com/en/component...-rws/rws/12-mm

From ENVE’s side: “Actual length: from under skewer head to end of skewer): 128 mm”

From DT’s side:
- Built in dimension: 100mm
- Length (MM) (L): 121mm
- Thread length (MM) (G): 13mm
- Thread: M12 x 1.5

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[yinzerniner]

Originally Posted by unterhausen

I'm not sure I understand why at least the thread pitch isn't a standard. Someone might be able to justify the length not being a standard. Maybe they thought of all the axle widths and just gave up.

Probably hasto do with dropout design and probably tightening tolerances , or at least that’s what the bike designers tell themselves.

As much as I’ve fully drunken the disc brake kool aid, not having a single thru axle thread pitch and length standard is such a kick in the dick. If they could have those two set then at least you can design around the rest via interchangeable washers/spacers. And having different hex head sizes on a single bike might be the most lazily overlooked issue that so many companies screw up.

At least it looks like the RAT and Maxie systems have gone the way of the dodo.

[NHAero]

Originally Posted by yinzerniner

Probably hasto do with dropout design and probably tightening tolerances , or at least that’s what the bike designers tell themselves.

As much as I’ve fully drunken the disc brake kool aid, not having a single thru axle thread pitch and length standard is such a kick in the dick. If they could have those two set then at least you can design around the rest via interchangeable washers/spacers. And having different hex head sizes on a single bike might be the most lazily overlooked issue that so many companies screw up.

At least it looks like the RAT and Maxie systems have gone the way of the dodo.

The Maxle I mentioned in the first post looks normal, what is obsolete?

[xnetter]

This all sounds annoying AF

[marciero]

What would be the benefit or incentive for companies to adopt uniform TA standard(s)? What is more surprising is that there are uniform standards of any sort. Chain pitch comes to mind. AFAIK has always ever been 1/2" or whatever it is. How did that happen? And no one has ever minded that the gear ratio jumps are not constant and get progressively larger with single tooth jumps on the back- particularly wacky for the latter generation of stupid small 9T sprockets. Rims also come to mind. But most rim manufacturers dont make tires, and vice versa, so rim and tire companies were incentivized to have coalesced around standards.