Ugh! Campy!

[Dr Luxurious]

Finally building up my new bike after a car hit me.
Got Campy 12 Disc.
Campy doesn't supply enough of the ridiculously expensive Max Smoothness housing to do full internal cable runs.
Plus, no caliper mounting bolts.
I mean, COME ON

[rice rocket]

Sounds very Italian.

OTOH, it's an opportunity to get yourself some titanium bolts.

[cgolvin]

I believe that's pronounced maximum smooveness

[elliott]

Mechanical groups never come with full length housing. And the caliper bolt length is very specific to the dropout design; they are ordered separately.

[charliedid]

Is that a feature or a benefit?

[Mike V]

Originally Posted by charliedid

Is that a feature or a benefit?

It’s a standard

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by Mike V

It’s a standard

And an Ethos

[EB]

Originally Posted by charliedid

And an Ethos

Say what you will about the tenets of Campagnolo…

[Dr Luxurious]

So I guess they're saving the shift housing for the new electronic groups?

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by EB

Say what you will about the tenets of Campagnolo…

I've said all there is to say.

[vespasianus]

Originally Posted by elliott

Mechanical groups never come with full length housing. And the caliper bolt length is very specific to the dropout design; they are ordered separately.

This.

[fmradio516]

Originally Posted by Dr Luxurious

Finally building up my new bike after a car hit me.
Got Campy 12 Disc.
Campy doesn't supply enough of the ridiculously expensive Max Smoothness housing to do full internal cable runs.
Plus, no caliper mounting bolts.
I mean, COME ON

I experienced the same thing when building my campy 12 bike. I got sets of the Jagwire Road Elite kits for this reason but sold the group before i got around to installing them. Lmk if you want the shift kit for cheap!

[herb5998]

All mechanical shift cable sets, regardless of manufacturer only include normal length housing. As much as people love to dunk on Campagnolo, same thing would have happened if you bought a Shimano or SRAM mechanical group.

As others have pointed out, FM caliper bolts are specific to the fork/chainstay flat mounts, which is why they are not supplied.

[gorkypl]

Originally Posted by herb5998

All mechanical shift cable sets, regardless of manufacturer only include normal length housing. As much as people love to dunk on Campagnolo, same thing would have happened if you bought a Shimano or SRAM mechanical group.

As others have pointed out, FM caliper bolts are specific to the fork/chainstay flat mounts, which is why they are not supplied.

Exactly this.

Also, you can use most of the high quality outer housings (prev gen Campagnolo, top line Jagwire etc) as long as you keep the Maximum Smoothness cables.