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In a few months you'll have the opportunity to pass one.
I'm not the skinny young triathlete I used to be. Time marches on.
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I love CIOCCS. When I worked at a shop in my youth, I always had plans to get a San Cristobal but could never save enough. Great bike. Post photos when you get it!
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All Italian bikes have crap paint, especially if the bikes have some chrome on them.
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Me 3
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Tubeset..need to try to find the 'test' conducted by Bill McGann of Torelli....a quiver of identical size frames, unmarked as to tubeset..then ridden and tested and passed around..and then 'evaluated'. Wasn't the Cromor frame considered the 'best' ride? There were a LOT of 'second' tier' Euro frames made..One small step below Derosa/Merckx/Pinarello/Colnago..every bit as good, just not the US distribution that made them as available as the above. Ciocc, Viner, Willier, Decordi, Scapin, Rossin, etc, many others. I think you look for the things you would look for in any frame. Alignment, cracks, dents and RUST. Paint is almost a 'consumable'..you can paint and decal any frame. I have a Ciocc/SL I bought in 1985 and it is one of the 3 best riding frames I have ever owned(Mondonico and Merckx MXLeader being the other 2).
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TSD had Guerciotti frames repainted. A lot of them still look pretty good. A lot of European bikes were built under contract. The Rauler thread/history says that Viner had delivery problems with one builder so they gave the contract to Rauler. So I wonder if this is where the talk of inconsistency came from |
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Yeah 7000 mile years and 17 pounds less was 3 decades ago.
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TSD was importing Billato framesets unpainted and painting them here (Florida if I recall correctly). They were selling Guerciotti, Tommaso, Rossin, and LeMond that I can recall, and there may have been more. All were made by Billato and shipped unfinished. The shop I raced for sold Tommaso and LeMond. These had the nicest and most durable paint of any 80s Italian I ever saw.
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One of the bike painters I follow on youtube (not Italian) recently made a video of spraying chromovelato. Which surprised me, it's like a temporary coating. Maybe it has gotten better over the years. |
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In a discussion of this very topic some years ago, Dale Brown - always careful about this sort of thing (and pretty everything else, for that matter) - specifically excluded Rossin from the Italian brands sold and painted in the USA by TSD. His understanding was that the TSD Rossins were Rossins through and through. Also, the mark was sold off a couple of times following Marco Rossin's death in the early 90s, and neither the product nor reputation of the brand was ever the same again.
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