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Brakeless fixie rider on trial for killing pedestrian in London
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ggs-old-bailey
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In Rhode Island (and probably all States), most serious cyclists break many of the rules every time they ride...
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In regards to the rider in the OP link, if the law required it, he's pretty much toast. He can argue that it wouldn't have made a difference, but then the other side could argue that it might have made a difference, minimized the impact, or even slowed your progress further back down the road so the collision never would have happened. Tough on all parties either way. William |
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Tragic and sad. If he's found guilty, it will be interesting to see what penalty is assessed and how it compares to an automobile driver killing a cyclist.
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But it is also Great Britain so it may not actually be relevant to the slap on the wrist that most motorists get when involved in an accident with a cyclist.
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He doomed himself saying he yelled at her twice before hitting her. If he had that much warning he should have been able to stop or swerve. Sounds like a pretty bad bit of riding and if he's that bad I believe him that he probably would still have hit her if he had brakes, cause he either wasn't paying attention or panicked and if he had brakes he probably would have forgotten how to use them.
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HE didn't wear a helmet! Throw away the key!
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Similar thing happened here a few years ago
A bicyclist who fatally struck a 71-year-old man who was crossing the street in San Francisco's Castro neighborhood was sentenced Thursday to three years of probation and 1,000 hours of community service. Chris Bucchere, 37, cut a deal with prosecutors last month, pleading guilty to felony vehicular manslaughter and avoiding a jury trial that could have exposed him to prison time if he had been convicted. The charge was the most serious ever brought in the U.S. against a cyclist in a fatal crash with a pedestrian, said District Attorney George Gascón. He said the victim's family did not want Bucchere to be locked up. "After the accident, but before Hui died, Bucchere wrote a post on an online cycling forum saying he was "way too committed to stop" before hitting Hui." |
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That's what bugs me. Motorist kills a cyclist. $100 fine. A life is gone - seems like a license should be suspended, a stiffer fine (10,000+), maybe some jail time.
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Found guilty of causing bodily harm by wanton or furious driving but not of manslaughter:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-41028321 |
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That article makes him sound way less guilty... the original articles did not describe the events as this one did:
- She stepped into the road and stood there staring at the phone - He yelled and slowed down to the 10-14mph range - She didn't move, and he swerved and yelled again - She took another step into his new path and he hit her So he saw her way in advance.. brakes probably were not even a factor. His real mistake was trying to ride around her as opposed to deciding to come to a complete stop. If the pedestrian is that out of it it's not hard to believe this happening to any of us, but again maybe having good brakes really would change the whole thing. 10-14mph seems like it makes sense as the range of speed I approach people on the MUT who look unpredictable. |
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Here in Massachusetts the law specifically states that bicycles ridden on the roads have to have brakes that stop the bicycle from a specified speed (15mph) within a specified distance (30 feet). This requirement can be met with just a rear brake (such as on a coaster brake bike), but it is nearly impossible to meet by reverse pedal pressure on a fixed gear. Last edited by Mark McM; 08-23-2017 at 04:27 PM. |
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Those cyclists sure are a menace. I bet it won't be much longer until pedestrians in London are clamoring for concealed-carry permits...
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The brakes, or lack there of, were definitely a factor according to the crash investigators who studied the "accident" and determined that he would have been able to stop if his bike had a front brake. The article also mentioned that he's the third cyclist in Britain to be successfully prosecuted for killing a pedestrian. The other two got the usual slap on the wrist, a year or less of incarceration, that we often see in the U.S. when a cyclist is killed by a motor vehicle operator.
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a cyclist without brakes kills a phone zombie...
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