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Old 09-20-2024, 07:55 PM
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I hate chain whips...

I have the abbey chain whip. I still hate it. Always seems just on the verge of out of control and smashed knuckles when I use it to remove a particularly stuck lockring.

My shop has, as all good shops should, a sturdy workbench and bench vise.

Is there anything out there that would allow me to clamp a cassette securely into a vise and easily remove a lockring?

I've seen and considered the vise-grip style pliers, but they dont seem long enough to have enough leverage to get the job done. Perhaps I could use them and clamp them in the bench vise?

Anything out there that I'm not aware of maybe?
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Old 09-20-2024, 08:11 PM
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I have a couple of normal ones...

and have often wondered if the pliers-type might be the better:

https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-CP-.../dp/B07PWH38ZJ
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Old 09-20-2024, 08:11 PM
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I like the pin style ones like Pro makes but you're limited to two tooth sizes per tool.
https://www.pro-bikegear.com/us/tool...assette-wrench
Stein makes one too
https://steintool.com/portfolio-item...-holding-tool/

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Old 09-20-2024, 08:14 PM
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Chain whips

Angry, I started using the Park Tools CP-1.2 chain pliers. I do not have very big hands and I do not have a mighty grip for sure, but the pliers work great for me if I keep it down on the small cogs. These are a hundred times better than the old whip in my opinion. No more bleeding knuckles! I would never go back to the old whip. Worth every penny in my opinion.
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Old 09-20-2024, 08:17 PM
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Pedro's Vise Whip. Love mine.
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Old 09-20-2024, 08:20 PM
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I've been using the Pedro's Vice Whip since it was a pre-production product with Zinn's name on it. It is far superior to a chain whip for me. 8 - 12 speed cassettes - it works for all of them. Oh, and single speed setups too.
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Old 09-20-2024, 08:24 PM
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Another recommendation for the Pedros vise whip. So much better to use than a chain whip.
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Old 09-20-2024, 08:26 PM
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Chain whip fan here.

You’re making me think I don’t understand the situation you’re complaining about. I’ve had freewheels corrosion welded onto hubs before but I’ve never had a problem with freehub lock rings.

I’m going to assume you know what you’re doing so I guess I’ve never seen a lock ring that is anything like that stuck. Line up the two tools and squeeze? In what way does the process involve my knuckles?
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Old 09-20-2024, 08:41 PM
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Stein

https://steintool.com/portfolio-item...-holding-tool/
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Old 09-20-2024, 10:01 PM
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^^^^ The Stein tool. I’m a convert. Read about this tool in a bike packing dot com editor’s list. Now I have one and my chain whip is gone. I’m a big fan of Abbey Tools but not of chain whips.
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Old 09-20-2024, 10:23 PM
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I have a Pedro’s version of that stein tool that must be 20 years old. Must pop up for cheap used for cheap I’d think.
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Old 09-20-2024, 10:30 PM
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I wear leather with gloves to protect the old knuckles.
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Old 09-20-2024, 10:47 PM
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This makes life easy

Quit complaining

https://www.parktool.com/en-us/produ...+%26+Freewheel
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Old 09-20-2024, 10:51 PM
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and have often wondered if the pliers-type might be the better:

https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-CP-.../dp/B07PWH38ZJ
yeah I have this and take cassettes off for fun
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Old 09-20-2024, 11:01 PM
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Pedro's Vise Whip. Love mine.
https://www.biketiresdirect.com/prod...p-ii?v=CSTVIST
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