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Old 10-18-2020, 10:05 PM
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Giro Havoc Pant

Anyone ride these?

https://www.giro.com/p/mens-havoc-mo...aign=HavocPant
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Old 10-19-2020, 03:18 AM
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No.

I don't like DWR. It washes off.

Assos isn't making a full length pant at the moment. It's a pity because the Trail Short buttonless and zipless waistband is sooo comfy.
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Old 10-19-2020, 05:48 AM
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I agree with the DWR thing washing off, but what is the alternative? Isn't all waterproofing coated? Other than ventile, I'm not sure what permanent waterproof and breathable fabrics there are out in the world.

These pants look good and, after the previous thread on winter riding with pants instead of tights, offer another option to my short but growing list.
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Old 10-19-2020, 06:13 AM
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I agree with the DWR thing washing off, but what is the alternative? Isn't all waterproofing coated? Other than ventile, I'm not sure what permanent waterproof and breathable fabrics there are out in the world.

These pants look good and, after the previous thread on winter riding with pants instead of tights, offer another option to my short but growing list.
Assos did make a full length pant some time ago, and they did tell me that they are thinking about a new version. I have the SturmNuss knicker version, which I really like. They're also discontinued, but i've stocked up. Assos didn't use DWR on the waterproof panels. I think it's an in-house textile. Most of their gear is made from proprietary textiles. Some of it works really well. Some not so well.

I did have Gore full length pants years ago. Waterproof, but a bit crispy and heavy, and not very well shaped. Too heavy below the knee, which created a pulling down effect over my knee caps during the pedal stroke. Sold them off.

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Old 10-19-2020, 08:13 AM
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Check these out if you are looking for rain pants designed for biking. They are really well thought out and comfortable.

https://www.patagonia.com/product/me...=BLK&cgid=root
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Old 10-20-2020, 07:53 PM
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Check these out if you are looking for rain pants designed for biking. They are really well thought out and comfortable.

https://www.patagonia.com/product/me...=BLK&cgid=root
On my list. Thanks.
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Old 10-21-2020, 01:14 AM
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7mesh thunder pants.......
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Old 10-21-2020, 05:02 AM
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Just seen these which look pretty good.
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Old 10-21-2020, 07:17 AM
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[QUOTE=charlieclick;2815339]Just seen these which look pretty good.[/QUOTE

''PI Dry® technology for permanent water-shedding performance'' - Better than DWR? Seems good.
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Old 10-21-2020, 05:56 PM
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Just seen these which look pretty good.
Can't get that to load? UK version...

Which pant?

I think Shimano has done well with 'some' of the new Pearl Izumi stuff.

Launch Trail Pant? Contender...

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Old 10-21-2020, 06:09 PM
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7mesh thunder pants.......
Those are cool but I might get more use out of the Patagonia Dirt Roamer as a bit more versatile?

You ride them?

Best name either way!
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Old 10-22-2020, 04:42 AM
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Sorry about that.

They’re called ‘Men’s Launch Pant’

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Can't get that to load? UK version...

Which pant?

I think Shimano has done well with 'some' of the new Pearl Izumi stuff.

Launch Trail Pant? Contender...
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