130 amateurs abandon Spanish race....

[Flinch]

Originally Posted by mistermo

They report more energy and better performance in the bedroom. I am not among them. Yet, anyway.

I don't get it..... My spin bike works the same in the exercise room, as it does when I'm pumping it mercilessly in the bedroom. I sweat the same.

[Baron Blubba]

Originally Posted by cgolvin

Do the improvements persist when they move their trainer from the bedroom to another room? (sorry)

Oh my. You win the day.

[bicycletricycle]

Probably all on hookless, got the news from the internet about the danger mid race and bailed before a blowout

[EB]

FWIW the cancer risk with HGH and testosterone “replacement” therapies is no joke. Most of the doctors in this space are quacks.

[GregL]

Originally Posted by bicycletricycle

Probably all on hookless, got the news from the internet about the danger mid race and bailed before a blowout

Outstanding cross-thread reference for the win! This is the funniest thread in years. Thanks for the laughs, Paceline

Greg

[coreydoesntknow]

Originally Posted by cgolvin

Do the improvements persist when they move their trainer from the bedroom to another room? (sorry)

This is definitely the content that I come here to read in the morning.

The Icarus documentary on Netflix is a wild little look into amateur doping in bike racing (at least for the first quarter of the movie). Highly recommend watching if you haven't.

[Dadoflam]

Originally Posted by gdw

Meh. All the riders who chose steak instead of chicken at the pre-race banquet bailed to avoid the drug test.....smart move after Contrador's experience.

That Spanish steak is pretty extreme - must be the grass fertilizer.

[Tandem Rider]

I was racing Master's Nationals in 2011, raced the TT, the time was what I expected, the placing was below what it should have been for the time. A few days later, it's the RR. USADA is at the RR doing testing, the field experienced an unexpectedly large number of DNS. I knew then why my placing in the TT was odd. This was the old guys, we're racing for a shirt, bragging rights, and free race entries for a year.

[unterhausen]

One of Dylan Johnson's recent videos talks about how he rode significantly faster last year and got the same placing as in 2022, mid-teens in most all his races. I wouldn't speculate that other people were doping in a video either. They are surely also just "training better."

[benb]

Originally Posted by EB

FWIW the cancer risk with HGH and testosterone “replacement” therapies is no joke. Most of the doctors in this space are quacks.

Yep, we have friends whose Dad's fell for this and had strokes or cardiac issues while on TRT.

Definitely not worth it to win basically nothing at an amateur race.

[GregL]

Originally Posted by Tandem Rider

I was racing Master's Nationals in 2011, raced the TT, the time was what I expected, the placing was below what it should have been for the time. A few days later, it's the RR. USADA is at the RR doing testing, the field experienced an unexpectedly large number of DNS. I knew then why my placing in the TT was odd. This was the old guys, we're racing for a shirt, bragging rights, and free race entries for a year.

As a fellow masters racer, I feel comfortable stating that some of our competitors have very fragile egos AND deeper pockets. It's a combination tailor-made for doping. I've seen similar situations at the local/regional level. Since integrity and good health mean more to me than medals and T-shirts, I'll continue doping with beer, wine and coffee.

Greg

[Alistair]

Originally Posted by EB

FWIW the cancer risk with HGH and testosterone “replacement” therapies is no joke. Most of the doctors in this space are quacks.

Not to mention shrunken testicles and likely inability to ever go off the TRT (testicles stop producing T when it's injected regularly, and often they won't "restart")