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Old 11-21-2021, 07:42 PM
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Help me decide....
Mostly due to availability, and $$$
Santa Cruz Stigmata
Salsa Warbird
Litespeed Watia
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Old 11-21-2021, 07:45 PM
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Stigmata !!!!!
It rides amazing, clears huge tires, finish quality is nice, threaded BB !!!
Do it.
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Old 11-21-2021, 07:56 PM
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Just bought my wife a Juliana Quincy, it is beautiful.
Trying to decide if I like the color way champagne?
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Old 11-21-2021, 07:57 PM
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All three are nice bikes. FWIW the Litespeed is available with a threaded T47 bb, and is made in the US. I’m a fan of ti for off-road bikes.
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Old 11-21-2021, 08:00 PM
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Help me decide....
Mostly due to availability, and $$$
Santa Cruz Stigmata
Salsa Warbird
Litespeed Watia
Thanks!
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Old 11-21-2021, 08:01 PM
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Me too, I am OCD anyway, just sold my Moots Vamoots,
Would love a Moots Routt 45 but $5K for a frameset yikes.
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Old 11-21-2021, 08:18 PM
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Help me decide....
Mostly due to availability, and $$$
Santa Cruz Stigmata
Salsa Warbird
Litespeed Watia
Thanks!

For most 650b clearance and sporty handling, pick Stigmata.

For most 700c clearance, stable handling, comfort, utility mounts, pick Warbird.

For metal…Litespeed
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Old 11-21-2021, 08:35 PM
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Not on your list, but how about the Ibis Hakka MX?
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Old 11-21-2021, 08:40 PM
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All three are nice bikes. FWIW the Litespeed is available with a threaded T47 bb, and is made in the US. I’m a fan of ti for off-road bikes.
The Ti Watia will laugh when big stones kick up into the down tube. The T47 BB will be nice and quiet right out of the box and stay what way. Plus a US-made bike with a lifetime warranty. Plus they are on sale right now. Seems like an easy choice.
(Full disclosure, I'm thinking about getting one myself).
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Old 11-21-2021, 08:42 PM
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The way I have been leaning after my wife said &#$@ no on the Routt
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Old 11-21-2021, 08:45 PM
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Ti gravel bike.
Had a Stigmata. Stiff sucker. Was more uncomfortable on 40 mm tires than my Ti bike with 28 mm tires. But it was nimble and handled great!
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Old 11-21-2021, 08:56 PM
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Among the choices you listed, I'd probably go with the Stigmata, then the Watia, then the Warbird.

If not limited to those, I'd go with Cervelo Aspero. In case it's not obvious, I have a preference for more road/race oriented gravel bikes.
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Old 11-21-2021, 08:56 PM
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Ti gravel bike.
Had a Stigmata. Stiff sucker. Was more uncomfortable on 40 mm tires than my Ti bike with 28 mm tires. But it was nimble and handled great!

The Stig CC is stiff, no doubt. It’s a race bike. And a dangg good one.
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Old 11-21-2021, 08:59 PM
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The Stig CC is stiff, no doubt. It’s a race bike. And a dangg good one.
It also doesn’t shy away from single track

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Old 11-21-2021, 09:34 PM
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I like the Ibis my MTB is a Ibis Ripley LS.
Not very available right now, everybody says that they are fun rides, but stiff?
Wondering on the Watia internal or external routing not much price difference.
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