Gravel Bike Frameset

[reuben]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

The Routt is twice the $ of the Santa Cruz..or the Santa Cruz is 1/2 of the Moots BUT..spread that over 5 years..$500 per year, WAY less than the $ of a StarBucks latte per day.

Yeah, but the latte can't be used as emergency brake fluid or tire sealant.

[Likes2ridefar]

Originally Posted by Tommy Mac

I find the Stigmata to be stiff laterally but very comfortable with proper tire pressure. The latest version also has fender mounts in case that matters. The GRX build is a good value IMO, although Santa Cruz tends to be premium-priced. I love mine!

Me too, honestly I don’t understand the stiff comments. If stiff means it rides as expected wherever you point the bike, then it’s stiff.

It’s smoother feeling in the rough stuff than my previous steel bike with similar setup.

[sfo1]

Good bike. Underrated. (Almost) infinitely adjustable on the stack....which should let you size down.

Originally Posted by zap

Might want to take a peek at Argon 18' Dark Matter.

[nmrt]

"stiff" is a feeling. some people feel a bike is "stiff". others do not.
for me, when i say "stiff", the ride of the Stig was JARRING. bone rattling jarring. even at 30 psi for 40 mm tires.

on the same trails, with the same tires/wheels, at the same psi my Ti gravel bike is so much compliant.

Originally Posted by Likes2ridefar

Me too, honestly I don’t understand the stiff comments. If stiff means it rides as expected wherever you point the bike, then it’s stiff.

It’s smoother feeling in the rough stuff than my previous steel bike with similar setup.

[madsciencenow]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

The Routt is twice the $ of the Santa Cruz..or the Santa Cruz is 1/2 of the Moots BUT..spread that over 5 years..$500 per year, WAY less than the $ of a StarBucks latte per day.

I like the way you think!


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[NHAero]

That looks like a deal compared to some of the other offerings. $3,300 with Force 1, complete.

Originally Posted by zap

Might want to take a peek at Argon 18' Dark Matter.

[Hilltopperny]

Get the Stigmata if you are looking for a snappy performance focused bike. Get the Warbird if you are looking for a smooth efficient all day bike.

I think the Warbird is one of the most stable comfortable gravel bikes I have thrown a leg over, but I loved my second gen Stigmata as well. The newest version is supposed to be a bit smoother ride than the Generation I had, but Santa Cruz makes a great bike.

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[Plum Hill]

Never heard of Wilde, but I like this: “We use full round cable guides on the stays as we find plastic zip ties on high-end bikes to be an inelegant compromise.”

[Clancy]

Originally Posted by Hilltopperny

Get the Stigmata if you are looking for a snappy performance focused bike. Get the Warbird if you are looking for a smooth efficient all day bike.

I think the Warbird is one of the most stable comfortable gravel bikes I have thrown a leg over, but I loved my second gen Stigmata as well. The newest version is supposed to be a bit smoother ride than the Generation I had, but Santa Cruz makes a great bike.

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Surprised not more love for the Warbird. I have a newer Warbird, replaced a Niner RLT Steel frame. I’ve had plenty of high end carbon, steel, Ti bikes and the Warbird is spectacular. The fit could not be better if it was custom. The Warbird has been around for awhile and the new version is pretty refined. Has a lot going for it.

[Hilltopperny]

Originally Posted by Clancy

Surprised not more love for the Warbird. I have a newer Warbird, replaced a Niner RLT Steel frame. I’ve had plenty of high end carbon, steel, Ti bikes and the Warbird is spectacular. The fit could not be better if it was custom. The Warbird has been around for awhile and the new version is pretty refined. Has a lot going for it.

I had one last season and it is a killer bike! One of my favorite gravel bikes to date! Extremely stable and even did well in the snow with a 650b setup.

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[weisan]

Originally Posted by moots7

Help me decide....

Thanks!

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