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Also very interested in this. No idea what's going to happen, other than rumours which have all been stated, but I hope it happens soon.
As to the 1x question, I've never ridden a 1x setup but as an experiment I've gone out for rides where I've kept the front in the small chainring (36t) and deliberately skipped gears on the cassette to emulate (as far as possible) the available steps of a wider 1x setup. Took some getting used to, but eventually I settled into the cadence variations just fine. For solo riding and touring I think it's fine. Probably still lacks the nuance and fine-grained adjustment as a 2x setup for fast group rides though. 1x13 is getting very, very close to a full spread of 2x gears while maintaining close (read: 2x) jumps for a lot of the high gears and without going too silly on the jumps between lower gears. You really just lack the extreme high or extreme low.... or, with astute chainring choice, you can bias your setup high or low.... not bad at all. I've enjoyed playing with the following gear ratio site. Just slide the chainrings and cogs around and compare the steps above - very well done! http://ritzelrechner.de/ (Be sure to hit the "compare" button down the bottom right of screen before you start so you can overlay to combo's. Then just click into either of the gear windows before making adjustments) Bringing this back to Campy, well, the Chorus crank looks to be designed for smaller rings and perhaps a 1x. I do hope they introduce an alloy UT crankset... that isn't *too* heavy. Last edited by robertbb; 07-06-2020 at 05:34 PM. |
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I read somewhere that Campagnolo dropped the name Daytona and Bianchi dropped the name Talladega at the same time (2002?) due to a challenge by NASCAR...who knows.
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If one draws a venn diagram of riders looking for 1x and riders looking for Campy, I suspect the overlap is very small.
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i wonder how the market for 1x in europe compares to the market for 1x in the US?
or the market for gravel in general? seems in the US, gravel is the new hot segment - is this consistent across the pond? is there an explosion of gravel racing and fondo type events in europe like we have here? what about asia market?
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Fuji said they had the “global trademark” per their PR statement but as far as I am aware, no such thing exists and I didn’t see any trademark filed by Fuji or their parent in Canada. Whether or not Specialized’s contract for use of the mark in the US bared them from registering it anywhere else, we will probably never know. Back on topic, I am with angry. I bet the take rate on the chorus subcompact was high. I am skeptical we will see it offered with SR and R, but chorus and below seems like a safe play. Last edited by thirdgenbird; 07-06-2020 at 05:54 PM. |
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MTB-style ratio gaps starting with 12, 14, 16t... work perfectly well for general riding. Only for competitive riding was the 1t ratio gap ever needed.
With today's mere 11s cassettes, this means that even 11-42t can give tight enough ratios for general riding, and precludes the need for any big ratio gap between chainrings. I'm not a fan of 1x though due to the severe chainline, particularly when the factory-set chainline is biased toward the smaller end of the cassette. So often this is due to anticipated/marketed largest tire sizes that are never actually used. So make it a tight double, heck make it a triple even, and keep the chainring ratio gaps user-friendly rather than the annoying 16t gap that is really starting to seem so painfully dated (even as it is still near it's peak of oem spec). Those big awkward chainring ratio gaps made so much sense when we were riding 6-speed freewheels. Yet today we have only handlebar shifting (or optional electronic shifting) to offset the problem. Still waiting for technically-updated triples and quads to show how it should be done (close-ratio, closer-spaced, unified-structure chainrings). Unfortunately many of today's molded frames are literally designed around current, dated status-quo 2x and 1x chainsets, just as some of the mtb's now made could never run bigger than a 34t or even 32t single chainring (and have very inefficient chainline). Last edited by dddd; 07-07-2020 at 04:36 PM. Reason: 11s was 11t |
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It's kind of like Vittoria tires and Vittoria shoes. At one point Vittoria tires reached out to Vittoria shoes and told them they needed to change the name. Edoardo who owns Vittoria Shoes looked and found out they had the name 2 weeks before Vittoria Tires. The tire company stopped calling after that. |
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Here is the registration from 2007 https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/t...gth=25&start=0 The opposite was true in my search for the US. ASI owned this one. The link above seems to support that. It specifically says Specialized agreed to buy the US mark. No mention of the Canadian mark. Again, I don’t know if Specialized had an agreement with ASI that bared them from claiming the mark in Canada but they did hold it. It came up in a cursory Canadian trademark search. Whatever the case, I though the whole ASI “global trademark” statement looked a bit silly. The whole thing was a bit silly. Last edited by thirdgenbird; 07-06-2020 at 06:14 PM. |
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"Specialized agrees to pay $700k for Roubaix trademark in the US" Roubaix is a city in France. It's been around a lot longer than Daytona. Last edited by tomato coupe; 07-06-2020 at 06:16 PM. |
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