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I certainly wouldn't be buying 11 speed now. I bought chorus 12 last July. It's worked flawlessly with the 48/32 and 11-34.
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Potenza only came out four year ago and already they have removed it from the lineup?
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campy certainly used to have a lot more levels out, and didnt seem to mind lots of overlap, but these days they seem to be slimming down the offerings. |
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Potenza was just a name change from Athena, and no one said they are not going to maintain the same name. What it matters is it's position in the line-up, not how it is called.
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Substantively, this is true. However, Campy's lineup isn't as well-known as Shimano's or SRAM's. It does make it confusing for both consumers and for shop staff. The aficionados certainly know, but more casual folks won't. I liked all the three names involved. Hope they just stick to one from here out.
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Potenza replaced Athena in the line-up, but I'd argue that it wasn't just a rename. There were substantial changes in component design as well. For example, Athena used 5 arm single BCD crank, had a triple crank (with a long cage derailleur) used PowerTorque bottom brackets, and the derailleurs were all metal. Potenza used a 4 arm dual BCD cranks, Used UltraTorque bottom brackets, had short and medium cage derailleurs, and the derailleurs were partially plastic composite. So, same position in the line-up but a very different group.
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Athena was definitely Ultra-Torque, i know, since everyone with standard gearing jumped on the Athena compacts, which were direct plug and play with most people's UT BB's. I think, if i remember correctly, Potenza started life as PT, but at the end went to UT as campy phased out PT all together. |
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I think Athena was Ultra-Torque at the beginning, but ultimately (2011?) switched to Power Torque.
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Athena was UT at first but became Power Torque with the 14mm bolt and no self extractor. I know because I was going the buy the Triple Crankset and group but never got around to it. Then they had their issue with the thumb button that was addressed with the droopy button.
The way the marketing was for Potenza was that it was alloy but lighter and modern. Then further improved PT with the self-extracting bolts. Centaur while not overly stated so, is a lead brick of solid metal for the crank arms. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. |
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I thought the idea of Potenza was to topple Ultegra as the king of OEM racing groupsets. I don't think the execution was there.
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Me thinks they should now add Disc brakes to Centaur and just have those 4 group sets. Centaur- Chorus- Record and Super Record. Market centaur as sitting between 105 and Ultegra, Chorus as sitting between Ultegra and Dura Ace and Record as Dura Ace or slightly above and Super Record as just above everything. Last edited by vespasianus; 07-15-2020 at 08:29 AM. |
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