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The Gravel trend is really strong and Im guessing they dont want to miss out this time like they did at first with discs
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As has been mentioned, Campagnolo has a sub compact crank, mid cage rear dear, disc brakes......etc... I don't think 1by is an essential except that marketed by one manufacturer. Cross racing, I can see it but GRoad bikes, 'gravel grinders', dirt road enthusiasts? Don't see it as essential, 1by...what about riding on dirt roads makes 1by essential vs a great working double with closer ratio rear cluster..same lower gear, higher high gear?
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I believe the commuter, non informed cyclist, is the right target for all the industry. A bicycle is a transportation vehicle. The best there is. The future belongs to bicycles. I am ok w/ the mass audience... just don´t sell me mass production angles as performance enhancing technology. It´s BS. By the way... gravel bikes are the new mountain bikes: same angles and capability. A 650B wheeled, disc brake, late 80s mountain bike. Have a good day. |
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Early adopters didn't care/have recovered and "leading from behind" is a tough way to market (my employers philosophy, so we're a bit behind all the time, but the stuff works better, customers view the one who was first as "innovative" and we're a follower). Every manufacturer has issues, it's how you respond (to your further point!) that makes the difference..
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I think a family mover will always be a part of Americana, again unless the very structure of the US, cities, towns, roads, highways, living, working, recreating, that have been in development for decades, fundamentally change. That family mover may be electric, but a family mover, nonetheless. If the 350 some million depend on a bike....well, the US will have other problems...like food, water, medicine......
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We decided that autos were king- in fact the spiritual embodiment of American independence during the Post-War era- and marginalized the idea of density, local living, and even marginal inconvenience. We sold the idea that you can live/work/play in a 50 mile radius instead of a 5-10 mile radius, and built our cities accordingly. Any bicycle infrastructure that's available in this environment is an afterthought, a band-aid, a small concession to the idea of a bicycle as recreation, but almost never for a bicycle as transportation. |
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My gravel bike is still 2x, because I think it offers me the most range and versatility for a bike I intend to ride everywhere. |
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YES, a lot of younger people have given up on the idea of owning a car..LOTZ do the bus, train, Uber/Lyft gig..and some ride a bike but again, that number is low. A lot of the above it's the expense of living in an urban center and owning a car..parking $, etc..PLUS lotsa single people..add in kids..and again, just doing the daily stuff gets really hard..and then it snows.. Europe and Asia, by comparison, have not had the 'bedroom community/interstate highway' 'phenomenon' that the US saw starting after WW2...Their areas/cities were largely destroyed by the war, along with no cars/fuel..it was all about survival in most cases and the ONLY way to get around was either by foot, by bike or by horse(altho a lot of people couldn't afford to feed it..and lack of food..etc..you get it)...Their urban centers were redesigned to support those ways of transportation..PLUS many family members of various generations living in one place. NOT trying to be ben downer here..I like bikes a lot too but 'bikes gonna save the world'....gotta disagree with that one. For Jaybee right above..I get the bigger tire gig but for the person 'Gravel Grinding'..riding on dirt roads for whatever reason..how many opt for or 'need' a 2 inch PLUS size set of tires...'Seems' like the 32-35-38 size would be the sweet spot..particularly since cross racing is at the 32mm level(Yes, I know that is mandated)..but the weight of a 2 inch plus tire? 2 of them?...makes a difference.. and
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To keep it Boulder: 35s or smaller are fine for Magnolia Rd, but if you want to keep Marshall Mesa interesting, 650x2.0 on drop bars is a fun way to go. The same tires felt a little small coming down Rollins Pass earlier this summer. |
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Chain pitch?
At some point chain pitch might be a consideration. The rationale for more and more cogs on the back has always been tighter ratios, and more recently, wider range with reasonable ratios. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think 12 or 13t smallest cog was normal back in the days of 5,6,7 speeds. But with smaller
cogs come larger jumps for one-tooth difference. The jump from 11 to 10 is 10% compared to about 9% going from 12 to 11. It goes down to a little over 7% going from 15 to 14. This is independent of chainring size and also independent of chain pitch. But with smaller pitch you would have more teeth for a given cog radius and gear inches, so smaller one-tooth jumps. |
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