The official Campagnolo WRL discussion thread

[KonaSS]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

Right or wrong, the way I have always thought about it is that Record competes directly with Dura-Ace and RED. Super Record is a class above that level.

That is some genius marketing. Chappeau! to whoever came up with this.

[Mark McM]

The Escape Collective (the independent source of cycling journalist which doesn't take any industry money) is a bit underwhelmed by Super Record WRL:

https://escapecollective.com/farewel...cord-wireless/

[Elefantino]

Originally Posted by Mark McM

The Escape Collective (the independent source of cycling journalist which doesn't take any industry money) is a bit underwhelmed by Super Record WRL:

https://escapecollective.com/farewel...cord-wireless/

And Ronan McLaughlin is a known Campyphile.

[dana_e]

I ride on the flat a bunch and I usually push something like a 65 to 70 inch gear ratio. Some call it the magic 70.

So 39 x 15 = 68.3 and 42 x 16 = 69.0

Everyone talks about top end and low end when discussing gear ratios. Those are the extremes. i tend to think around what do I usually ride.

If I had a 32 or 29 inner ring that would put me into this ring and cog combo:

29 x 11 = 69.3
32 x 12 = 70.1
34 x 13 = 68.7

That is some serious cross gearing. I suppose you can switch to the big ring. But that again is a cross chain situation. I am running 52 by 36, which is compact enough, otherwise it seems to be a cross chain situation on the flat.

Ok the big ring break down is as follows, maybe not that bad after all. i still tend to picj gearing that puts me inthe middle of cassette on the flat.

45 x 17 = 69.6
48 x 18 = 70.1
50 x 19 = 69.2

[rice rocket]

Originally Posted by Charles M

174.5 Q Factor

Is this for real? Is campy rolling out on fat bikes or something?

[Old School]

Originally Posted by KonaSS

Honestly, thumbs buttons, gear ratios, batteries, heritage....I am sure it will all be fine and well sorted. But those flesh colored shorts!?! Someone should be fired.

Exactly the first thing I thought.

in fact I think I need to start day-drinking to get that out of my head

[rice rocket]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

DA is 'about' $4500...and semi wireless, little carbon or little titanium but...Campagnolo, so gotta throw stones. WHY is a almost entirely aluminum group SO expensive? What a friggin joke.

I haven't looked at the SRAM patent portfolio, but I'm guessing some of it is Campy licensing the wireless patents.

Also, I'm not sure if your comparison is of value, since I doubt anyone really cares what the MSRP for DA is since most of their component sales are through the OEM channel, whereas Campy is OEM on only a handful of brands that nobody is buying anyways.

[tomato coupe]

Originally Posted by dana_e

I ride on the flat a bunch and I usually push something like a 65 to 70 inch gear ratio. Some call it the magic 70.

So 39 x 15 = 68.3 and 42 x 16 = 69.0

Everyone talks about top end and low end when discussing gear ratios. Those are the extremes. i tend to think around what do I usually ride.

If I had a 32 or 29 inner ring that would put me into this ring and cog combo:

29 x 11 = 69.3
32 x 12 = 70.1
34 x 13 = 68.7

That is some serious cross gearing. I suppose you can switch to the big ring. But that again is a cross chain situation. I am running 52 by 36, which is compact enough, otherwise it seems to be a cross chain situation on the flat.

1. No, switching to the big ring would put you right in the middle of the cassette.
2. Why would you not normally be in the big ring on the flats?

[SleepyCyclist]

Long time campy fan - but a bit underwhelmed. And the costs are just too much for me.

Looks like a nicer eTap, which still has a rim brake option. I prefer the shift layout of eTap, but the aesthetics of campy...

[dana_e]

45 x 17 = 69.6
48 x 18 = 70.1
50 x 19 = 69.2

Maybe I am old school and used to 53 bigs. Having 12 in back changes the gear game.

[mcteague]

Originally Posted by Mark McM

The Escape Collective (the independent source of cycling journalist which doesn't take any industry money) is a bit underwhelmed by Super Record WRL:

https://escapecollective.com/farewel...cord-wireless/

Even the Bike Radar and Cycling Weekly reviews are less than glowing.

https://youtu.be/RQwz_-KJZQ4

https://youtu.be/VXj62nUykK8

Tim

[lorenbike]

For $5300 the photos make it look like a bird crapped on the crankset.

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by rice rocket

Is this for real? Is campy rolling out on fat bikes or something?

It looks like two of the digits got transposed. The actual Q factor of the new cranks is 147.5mm (2.0mm wider than previous cranks).

The previous H11 and 12spd cranks had kind of an in-between chainline, halfway between the expected chainlines for 130mm and 135mm rear wheel axle widths, so that the cranks could be used with either wheel width. But as this new group is disc only, and has a wider Q, it's a good bet that the new chainline is setup for 135mm wheels only.

[martl]

I guess i 'll wait out the next generation when they eat some humble pie, apologize and bring the thumb shifter back

[tylercheung]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

DA is 'about' $4500...and semi wireless, little carbon or little titanium but...Campagnolo, so gotta throw stones. WHY is a almost entirely aluminum group SO expensive? What a friggin joke.

First blush with pricing..undoutedly it'll come down to 'about' what DA 12s disc is..but....

$6000 for a stainless, mechanical watch?..what a friggin joke.
Get a Seiko!!
$44k for an old tech Ducati? What a friggin joke,
Get a Honda!!

teehee

Granted, around these parts, there are people who will show up with $44k in cash for an old Honda S2000! When Big H is on a roll, they're on a roll (at least before they moved into the old Oldsmobile factory...)