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Old 03-31-2020, 04:32 PM
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By "Cheaper" I should have said cheaper to manufacture, but not cheaper in material quality.
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Old 03-31-2020, 04:35 PM
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Alloy braking tracks fine. Tan sidewalls a no go for most applications IMHO.
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Old 03-31-2020, 04:41 PM
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I don't get all the alloy brake track hate here. When I started cycling, many, many moons ago, many bikes still used steel rims and most components were either steel, or sometimes plastic. "Alloy" was a sign of quality in both rims and components, and showing lots of shiny aluminum was a point of pride for bike owners.

When carbon fiber came along, it appears that black became the new "gotta have" color. Now, wheels are black, frames are black, components are black, and many people wear black clothing. Carbon is now being used, even where it doesn't make sense (like rim brake tracks). And when when wheels or components are made out of another material, it has to be black, because, you know, carbon is black, and carbon is cool, so everything has to be black to be cool.

I'm not particularly fashion conscious, so I'm not drawn toward fancy colors (even if the fancy color is black). Instead, I pick materials based on what is best for the job, and then leave them their natural colors. So my aluminum brake tracks are the color of bare aluminum, my stainless steel spokes are the color of bare stainless steel, etc.
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Old 03-31-2020, 04:47 PM
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My first half decent bike had dimpled steel rims.

Black sidewalls for the longest time were a sign of a cheap tire. Thankfully not the case anymore.
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Old 03-31-2020, 04:50 PM
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Too many black carbon frames out there muddling people's sense of aesthetic. I'm perfectly happy with alloy brake track and tan walls.
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Old 03-31-2020, 07:58 PM
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tan wall tires are the fugly...
Aaakkkhh!!
You said it out loud. How dare you speak the truth
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Old 03-31-2020, 08:00 PM
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Man, wait til this guy finds out about quill > threadless converters.
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Old 03-31-2020, 08:31 PM
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These are beautiful wheels, in my opinion, and tan tires look completely incongruous on them. All blacks look fantastic otoh.

Silver is always more beautiful than black,
Agree, no honey gum rubber sidewalls, please!

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Old 03-31-2020, 08:53 PM
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Silver is always more beautiful than black,

Agree, no honey gum rubber sidewalls, please!
Beautiful too, but I just cannot go to "always more".

No complaints from me on the silver HPW, although I definitely prefer the blacks.
Even though it makes sense it is interesting how the rim joint is so much more obvious on the silvers.

But, good enough for Pantani is good enough....
(and, even bright yellow tires are more beautiful than tan tires.)


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Edit: Did Ullrich also ride the silver Shamals for a bit before he switched to Lightweight wheels?

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Old 04-01-2020, 07:55 AM
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I guess I'm getting old and not caring enough. I'll keep rocking the Al brake track carbon rims and tan walls.DSC_1475.jpg

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Old 04-01-2020, 08:37 AM
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Some posts in this thread make me wonder why road riders get a reputation for being snobby and elitist (aka insecure and self conscious). Oh well, off for my ride with the screenwriters of Mean Girls.
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Old 04-01-2020, 08:39 AM
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Beautiful too, but I just cannot go to "always more".

No complaints from me on the silver HPW, although I definitely prefer the blacks.
Even though it makes sense it is interesting how the rim joint is so much more obvious on the silvers.

But, good enough for Pantani is good enough....
(and, even bright yellow tires are more beautiful than tan tires.)


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Edit: Did Ullrich also ride the silver Shamals for a bit before he switched to Lightweight wheels?
All silver is sweet, it's only the clash of black and silver that is the problem
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Old 04-01-2020, 08:50 AM
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Campagnolo Bullets have aluminum brake tracks and they are fantastic wheels.
Indeed, Bullets are an outstanding wheel.

I never knew silver brake tracks cause such consternation! If it's an aluminum wheels, what color is it supposed to be?

First world problems...
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Old 04-01-2020, 08:58 AM
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Some posts in this thread make me wonder why road riders get a reputation for being snobby and elitist (aka insecure and self conscious). Oh well, off for my ride with the screenwriters of Mean Girls.
There's a lot of generalization.

I don't like Carbon wheels outside of a race. They look especially silly under riders who are out of shape. So I'm a reverse snob. For my own use i don't really like deep rims at all, it's a lot easier for me to be annoyed by their crosswind behavior than it is to feel the minuscule aero improvements at typical speeds.

And I don't like tan sidewalls either. Although I agree if you're going to use Tan sidewalls they look better on black rims.
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Old 04-01-2020, 09:46 AM
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Indeed, Bullets are an outstanding wheel.

I never knew silver brake tracks cause such consternation! If it's an aluminum wheels, what color is it supposed to be?

First world problems...
again, this is purely from an aesthetic standpoint. No one is arguing alu brake track wheels are either good or bad quality
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