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Old 08-17-2017, 09:55 AM
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Yeah I wonder how easy it is to switch them out for the correct size. Can you customize it upon order? I'm guessing not. So, you'd have to order the correct length after you buy the bike? That would kind stink since I'm sure they aren't cheap.
You used to be able to customise stem length when you bought it, but as of last year they made you get the stock bike and then change the stem AFAIK. Pretty stupid, and it took around a month to get a longer stem. I think it was 35 or so euros. That is just for a stem, not the fancy integrated stem/bar
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Old 08-17-2017, 11:03 AM
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You used to be able to customise stem length when you bought it, but as of last year they made you get the stock bike and then change the stem AFAIK. Pretty stupid, and it took around a month to get a longer stem. I think it was 35 or so euros. That is just for a stem, not the fancy integrated stem/bar
Ugh. And that's why I hate proprietary stuff. It just needlessly complicates things.
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Old 08-17-2017, 03:22 PM
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Yes, the stems/headsets/oversized steerer tube are a bit crap. I ended up fitting a Giant headset top cap and a Giant stem to mine.

They're a bit "meh" TBH, not exciting, but they do the job and are great VFM.
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Old 08-17-2017, 06:41 PM
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A riding buddy of mine didn't want to wait and WENT TO GERMANY to get his Canyon AllRoad DA-Di2 earlier this year (well, and he also went to visit family).

I'm not gonna lie, it's a sweet bike. But that's some serious dedication.

And yes, I told my wife about it multiple times. It's helpful to benchmark others' bike-lust craziness to normalize your own..
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:06 PM
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And yes, I told my wife about it multiple times. It's helpful to benchmark others' bike-lust craziness to normalize your own..
When asked about how many bikes I have, my response is fewer than . . . .
That avoids the disagreement of whether a bare frameset counts.
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:33 PM
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Aren't these things made by Giant? These are German "engineered" not manufactured (correct if I am wrong)
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:05 PM
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Aren't these things made by Giant? These are German "engineered" not manufactured (correct if I am wrong)
They are not German manufactured and I don't think they ever claimed to be. Like most companies, I believe they are pretty tight-lipped about what factory(ies) make their bikes.
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Old 08-18-2017, 01:46 AM
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Aren't these things made by Giant? These are German "engineered" not manufactured (correct if I am wrong)
No need to romanticize a real world, non-glamorous manufacturing process aka "handicraft". Manual labor is hard.

With any highly engineered race bike, I'd rather it be made in Taiwan by a serious working person who has years of experience than by an art school dilettante in Germany or England or Italy. And that's a premium worth paying for; your teeth and bank account will thank you.

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Old 08-18-2017, 11:30 AM
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These are German "engineered" not manufactured (correct if I am wrong)
And that would be different from just about all other high-end bicycles how?

It also depends on what you mean by "manufactured". While the frame and components of Canyon bikes are made outside of Germany, complete bicycles are assembled in Germany.

You do realize that very few American bicycle companies produce their frames and components in the US, right? The big American bicycle companies (Trek, Specialized, Cannondale) all produce their frames in Asia.

This is hardly unique to the bicycle industry. Many American companies do the majority of their manufacturing outside the US. Apple computers and cellphones, Nike athletic shoes, and Levi's denim jeans, just to name a few.
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Old 08-18-2017, 11:31 AM
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Aren't these things made by Giant? These are German "engineered" not manufactured (correct if I am wrong)
A lot of stuff is made by Giant that doesn't have their logo on it.
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Old 08-18-2017, 02:18 PM
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I am well aware the country of origin for bike (and most stuff).. Wondering what makes these guys so "boutique" intrigue for entering US market.

Has anyone tried Allied Cycle Works, make in Arkansas
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Old 08-18-2017, 02:23 PM
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It should take Allied about 10 years to design and manufacture a bike as good as a Canyon. And by then, Canyon will be 20 years ahead.
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Old 08-18-2017, 02:44 PM
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You used to be able to customise stem length when you bought it, but as of last year they made you get the stock bike and then change the stem AFAIK. Pretty stupid, and it took around a month to get a longer stem. I think it was 35 or so euros. That is just for a stem, not the fancy integrated stem/bar
I called them today and they are not making changes to the one piece bar/stem if you want a different stem length
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Old 08-18-2017, 03:38 PM
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It should take Allied about 10 years to design and manufacture a bike as good as a Canyon. And by then, Canyon will be 20 years ahead.
That's nonsense.
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:09 PM
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I am well aware the country of origin for bike (and most stuff).. Wondering what makes these guys so "boutique" intrigue for entering US market.

Has anyone tried Allied Cycle Works, make in Arkansas

So you come on the Canyon thread, serve up some lame shot, and then try to repurpose to an unrelated topic?
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