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Right on Red: The Culture War Comes for Traffic Lights
Nothing terribly surprising, but it’s an interesting article.
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Coincidentally, twice in the past 24 hours I have seen motorists here making a left on red!!!
It wouldn't surprise me if there is an underlying political bias to any/all of this traffic misbehavior. |
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kinda interesting, cuz...
right here in Santa Rosa, CA they have just slurry sealed the entire downtown and applied a fresh batch of paint lines everywhere. To that end it appears to be in favor of "traffic calming" and painted bike lanes by reducing two lanes of car traffic in each direction to one lane each plus bike lanes each.
It looks cool and new but, even as a cyclist, I wonder about the cost benefit analysis of the dollars spent, the slowing of car traffic, and the relatively minor amount of bicycle traffic that will ever take advantage.
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See this a lot in Portland on lefts onto one way multi lane roads. Like folks coming off the I-205 bypass.
As a cyclist, I can say most of my almosts are right turns on red drivers that mostly skip over the stop parts, or even slow down. This is when I cross with the walk light being on. Just googled this: Oregon does allow drivers to make a left turn on red, but only when turning onto a one-way street.
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Little known traffic law (and I hope they changed it), but here in Massachusetts it is legal to make a left turn on red if the street you are entering is one-way.
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Used to be true for Vancouver, BC as well. Haven't driven there for a number of years so I have no idea if it is still legal to do so.
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We have a lot of these signs and seattle and they get ignored frequently. Many of the signs are there to protect cyclists specifically who are in a two-way protected bike lane that gets their own time in the light cycle. Drivers will turn right into cyclists who have the green because the protected bike lane is on one side of the street or the other, not both.
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Here we use Italian traffic light laws.
Green = Go Yellow = Go faster Red = Go very fast |
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There's a saying among bike commuting wonks that paint is not protection. I.e. it's not really proper infrastructure.
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And it's slippery when wet.
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And to think I’d just be happy to see people actually stop at red lights.
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In most places, if you are ON a one way street and turning left onto a one way street, you can turn left on red after coming to a complete stop. But only from the far left lane and onto the far left lane.
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The number of drivers who are oblivious to the "No Turn On Red" signs amazes me. Are they illiterate or selfish?
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FWIW, right turn on red (well, left, since they drive backwards) doesn’t exist in the UK and they seem to be fine.
Right on red doesn’t seem to impact me much as a pedestrian - but the roads I cross on my walk to work are either fully signaled (for cars and peds) or four way stops. I can’t think of a road near me that I’d cross while cars going the same direction have a red (and cross traffic has the green). What I really hate is having my walk signal coincide with car traffic. IE cars are making right on green right into me while I have the crossing signal. I waited patiently instead of playing frogger, but people still try to kill me. Not a month goes by that I don’t yell at, gesture at, or smack a car that ignored my signal and turned right into me. So many drivers are self-entitled, uncaring assholes. |
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Based on other behavior, selfish.
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