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12-05-2021, 04:29 PM
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Waterford praise
I wanted to pass on my impressions of a custom Waterford I received about 5 months ago. This is my 3rd custom bike, the first ffrom Waterford. I am not a racer, I’m not interested in the lightest bike, and my main focus with this bike was comfort and fun. As you can see in the picture, the bike is set up with platform pedals, which is consistent with the type of riding I do. The geometry of the frame is very relaxed, with a long wheelbase. The geometry is similar to what you would find on a Rivendell. I also have the handlebars about 40 mm above the saddle. Again, this is consistent with the type of riding I do. Now for the review: I can’t overstate how comfortable the ride is. It rides like a Cadillac. It is by far the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden. The ride has that distinct steel feel that many love. For anyone looking for a custom steel frame, I would strongly consider Waterford, especially if you are looking for an extremely comfortable ride. I forgot to mention, this frame was built to take up to 40 mm tires. Thanks for looking!
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#2
12-05-2021, 05:03 PM
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Three Waterford built frames here. Would love to have one custom built to take 40 mm tires one day. Photo from a ride early last March, sounds like we may get snow this week.
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12-05-2021, 05:27 PM
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Beautiful frame and a great build to go along! Congrats!
I too am considering a Rivendell like custom frame, but want to have shorter chai stays. Would you mind posting the geo? If you don’t mind, could you share what a custom frame like that would cost?
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12-05-2021, 06:10 PM
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Really nice bike, but why so many spacers and positive rise stem on a custom frame. Just curious if that was your choice?
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12-05-2021, 06:23 PM
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I think the alternative (longer head tube/headtube extension) would not look good…I don’t mind the spacer stack - most of my bikes have one as well so am biased
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12-05-2021, 07:02 PM
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Thanks for your comments. I tried to upload the geo sheet, but was unable to for some reason. But here are the numbers: Stack: 659 mm Reach: 382 mm Front Center: 643.9 mm min =590.0 Trail: 62.7 Headtube: 222m Center to top: 565 mm Ctr to Ctr: 550.6 mm Theo Ctr to Ctr: 632 mm Effective Ctr to Ctr: 632.5 Chainstay: 445 mm Wheelbase: 1076.7 Theo TT: 585 mm Actual TTL 566.5 TT Slope: 7.9 deg BB drop: 80 mm SA: 73.0 deg HA: 71.0 deg Saddle height: 775mm Saddle top to bars: 662 mm Saddle tip to bars: 511 mm Bar to Saddle Drop: plus 45 mm Rake: 55.0 I will continue to try to upload the geo sheet. In terms of the cost, The frame (Waterford Artisan 22 lugged) with fork was $2700. But I believe the prices have gone up since I purchased it in April. I believe the frame and fork would now be $3625.
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12-05-2021, 07:04 PM
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Thanks for your comments. In terms of the spacers and positive rise stem, I left all the design features to Richard Schwinn. As most of you know, he certainly knows what he is doing, so I left all those types of decisions to him.
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12-05-2021, 07:44 PM
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12-05-2021, 08:45 PM
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The new F/F cost is a bit out of my reach right now though. This is a standout geo for the purpose of casual riding. Love it! I am going to bookmark for future reference.
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12-05-2021, 08:58 PM
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Thanks for your comments. I tried to upload the geo sheet, but was unable to for some reason. But here are the numbers: Stack: 659 mm Reach: 382 mm Front Center: 643.9 mm min =590.0 Trail: 62.7 Headtube: 222m Center to top: 565 mm Ctr to Ctr: 550.6 mm Theo Ctr to Ctr: 632 mm Effective Ctr to Ctr: 632.5 Chainstay: 445 mm Wheelbase: 1076.7 Theo TT: 585 mm Actual TTL 566.5 TT Slope: 7.9 deg BB drop: 80 mm SA: 73.0 deg HA: 71.0 deg Saddle height: 775mm Saddle top to bars: 662 mm Saddle tip to bars: 511 mm Bar to Saddle Drop: plus 45 mm Rake: 55.0 I will continue to try to upload the geo sheet. In terms of the cost, The frame (Waterford Artisan 22 lugged) with fork was $2700. But I believe the prices have gone up since I purchased it in April. I believe the frame and fork would now be $3625.
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#13
12-06-2021, 07:40 AM
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Congratulations on the lovely bike. Count me in for the Waterford praise choir as well. Mine is a mid 90’s 1250 built with Reynolds 753 as a “Century bike”… slightly more relaxed geometry and taller head tube than the 2200 series. Uber comfy on long rides, though unlike yours, mine can only handle 28’s.
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#14
12-06-2021, 08:54 AM
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I can only assume the owner has either, or both, a long leg/short torso body or back issues, necessitating a high bar position. A taller head tube would mean raising the top tube, thereby compromising stand over height. I fit in both of those classifications. As others have said, that frame would be a good fit for me, too, but I could go for a lower handlebar height. Not everyone can do the long/low/slammed.
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12-06-2021, 10:15 AM
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Was wondering who got that tall beauty last year!
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