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Old 05-14-2023, 07:52 PM
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I am not a huge Remco fan- but to see him go home like this is disappointing.

The flip side is that Geraint Thomas looks to be in good position- I am a huge fan of his.

This has been a good Giro so far- and it may only get better now.
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Old 05-14-2023, 07:55 PM
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I just returned from a week long company meeting with 1000 people. I rode today and didn't feel particularly strong but I attributed it to a week off the bike. I decided to test and sure enough, I have covid (for the third time). I had the same on-bike weakness before feeling symptoms the first time I got it in 2021 as well.

It's the right move for them to continue testing and to send Remco home whether he feels sick or not.
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Old 05-14-2023, 08:05 PM
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Probably unpopular here, but still testing for covid? He says it was a routine test. Probably has no symptoms. Shame he has to abandon the race for this.
He had symptoms. See this Cyclingnews article where he stated he had congestion: “And I think you can also hear that my nose is a bit blocked.“ https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/eve...ia-time-trial/

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Covid is officially over, and it never was much especially with regards to a healthy person. Shame on the Tour for making him drop out. What a crock.
The Giro didn’t pull him, his team did: "As part of the team's protocol, I took a routine test, which unfortunately was positive.” They want to keep him and his teammates healthy. https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rem...d-19-positive/

Let’s all please stop with the misinformation and political slants to this news. Thank you.

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Old 05-14-2023, 08:18 PM
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And the team even took the precaution of having Remco et. al helicopter off the mountain after Saturday's stage. Damn, damn, damn, damn. (He's on my VG team -- so is Ganna! -- but that's not the real damn here. I wanted to see him battle.)

Naturally there's speculation about the Tour but that parcours doesn't suit him. Not that I'd mind; I'd love to see first-hand a last-week battle between Remco, Pogacar and Vingegaard.



Oh ... and I still mask when I work in the shop. Some people ask why.
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Old 05-14-2023, 08:56 PM
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Covid is officially over, and it never was much especially with regards to a healthy person. Shame on the Tour for making him drop out. What a crock.
You sure have an axe to grind.

Most would drop out if they got the flu or even a cold.
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Old 05-14-2023, 09:14 PM
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Covid is officially over, and it never was much especially with regards to a healthy person. Shame on the Tour for making him drop out. What a crock.
While I agree that it's "over" for now as a pandemic it's nothing to be flippant about. My father in law died of Covid before there were shots available. He was a doctor doing what amounted to volunteer work at a free hospital serving indigenous people in a mountainous, remote area of Mexico so it was "much" to him and our family. And he was healthy.

Getting back on topic and off trolls it was a shame to lose Remco even if I am not a fan of his demeanor.
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Old 05-14-2023, 09:50 PM
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Covid is officially over, and it never was much especially with regards to a healthy person. Shame on the Tour for making him drop out. What a crock.
I don't believe he was required to drop out. My understanding is it was the decision of the team for him to withdraw. No need to shame anyone. Competing in a grand tour is hard, and it's reasonable that a team wouldn't want to push a riser through sickness, whether that sickness is COVID or something else.
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Old 05-14-2023, 09:55 PM
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I don't believe he was required to drop out. My understanding is it was the decision of the team for him to withdraw. No need to shame anyone. Competing in a grand tour is hard, and it's reasonable that a team wouldn't want to push a riser through sickness, whether that sickness is COVID or something else.
Team and event doctor actually. I would assume there is pressure to withdraw.
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Old 05-14-2023, 10:04 PM
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Covid is officially over, and it never was much especially with regards to a healthy person. Shame on the Tour for making him drop out. What a crock.
I sell bikes for a living. In the summer of 2020, I coincidentally sold bikes to a few seemingly healthy people who coincidentally died before ever getting a chance to ride them. My healthy grandmother also coincidentally declinec and died over the course of two weeks that summer. Likewise, several of my very athletic peers decided to compound that coincidence by dying, while others who were not quite so dedicated to perpetrating the propaganda decided to merely coincidentally severely debilitate their extreme athletic health to a sub geriatric level. In a further effort to propagate the government’s scamdemic conspiracy, which is clearly also a shabbily disguised bid for world domination by wealthy Jewish bankers and an excuse to change the batteries in all the world’s spy drones—whoops I mean birds!— at least a half dozen people I knew personally volunteered to abandon their mortal coil, wives, and kids in favor of whatever rewards await them on the other side.

I agree with you: What a crock.
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Old 05-14-2023, 10:41 PM
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We can’t really know but it could have affected him the past 2 days plus the crashes. I think of Remco while amazing is not at the the same level as Pog and Vingego for the TDF and he may opt to ride the Vuelta again unless he just wants to get TDF experience which makes some sense.
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Covid is not over for me or the 1,000 still dying per week in the US.
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Old 05-14-2023, 10:56 PM
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I still wear a mask everywhere I go as well, but I lost my brother to it.. so I'm not willing to take chances.
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Old 05-14-2023, 11:06 PM
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Probably unpopular here, but still testing for covid? He says it was a routine test. Probably has no symptoms. Shame he has to abandon the race for this.
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Covid is officially over, and it never was much especially with regards to a healthy person. Shame on the Tour for making him drop out. What a crock.

Do you even watch racing or have you just been ragebaited into commenting about covid?

He was off on Stage 8 and Stage 9. He was expected to put minutes into everyone on Stage 9 but only mustered a second on Thomas, not even 20 seconds on Roglic (who had a bad day). Contrast with Stage 1, a TT that he was less suited and was shorter (at almost half the distance) where he put 43 into Rog and 55 into Thomas.

During the interview his face is puffy and visibly congested across the eyeballs, looking ten years older than he actually is. Like he literally looks like an advertisement for a decongestant.

Say what you want about COVID and a *healthy* person, you do not hold up a pro cyclist mid grand tour as an example of what healthy is, moreover they are operating on the razors edge. It's not compulsory to pull him, so clearly it has been done for a reason. And while you're considering these literal facts... quit viewing the world through an ideological prism!

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Old 05-14-2023, 11:35 PM
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I forgot to mention, hard exercise while sick with covid can also cause cardiac issues such as myocarditis or pericarditis - quite a gamble with your health as well as that of others.
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Old 05-14-2023, 11:44 PM
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Covid is officially over, and it never was much especially with regards to a healthy person. Shame on the Tour for making him drop out. What a crock.
Was not the Giro organizers that stipulate he drop out, it was his own team rules and concern for the team and his health.

Edit: OK I see this has been gone over and straightened out, I posted after reading the first page, please excuse my unnessary repeat.
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Old 05-15-2023, 12:05 AM
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I've watched plenty of stage racing. I know about the "razors edge" these athletes live on. I also read the original post that mentioned absolutely nothing about any symptoms. In fact it did mention he won two stages and the leaders jersey for four stages, all in one week. Forgive me for not knowing his stage 8 and 9 results. Remco himself said it was a routine test given by the team. I guess I should have researched the post race interviews and various cycling sites before commenting. And "ragebaited" into commenting on covid? Really? I don't see much rage in my original post. Had covid once myself. Next door neighbor died from it. Just didn't think they were testing still as it appeared much of the world had started to move on from it. I was right about it not being a popular viewpoint.
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