New Campy 12 Speed

[R3awak3n]

I have to say, campy is smart going only record/SR on this. If you really want 12, you going to have to pay the big bucks. Everyone already figure out chorus is where its at, no point going record/SR unless you are a weight weenie so if you want the new/new then cough up some cash.

[mcteague]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

I think it looks awesome!!

Certainly no worse than these.

I rest my case.




Tim

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

I think it looks awesome!!

Certainly no worse than these.

it actually does, believe it or not.

[David Tollefson]

The photos that I've seen seem rather light on pics of the RD. Maybe for a good reason. And those rim calipers! Seems silly to tout the tire clearance when the direct mount location makes it even narrower than the previous.

[tuscanyswe]

When 11s came about i wasent thrilled with the looks but its grown on me, well not the 4 arm cranks but the rest.. However i think my thoughts on this is that im even less pleased with the new release than i was when 11s came. This is simply not something i would consider buying at this point, maybe i will come around in 3 years. Who knows..

[fignon's barber]

Ouch. That crankset is rough looking. Looks like they melted the old one and stepped on it. Bike Rumor also has an article on new Campa Bora wheels: 60mm and 77mm deep (when others are moving toward less deep more aero) and clincher/tubeless only (no tubular because they have worse rolling resistance). Who's running this ship?

[rain dogs]

The record crank is nicer looking than the previous 4-arm. Not a fan of the supporting fins on the Super Record. The brakes are not particularly nice. The Front derailleur is damn fine looking in both record and super record. The rear derailleur is good (better aesthetically in super record), if we're going to have these offset rear derailleurs that one looks good enough. New wheels look sharp too.

I'd say it's the brakes only that really are off to me. But I really liked how the skeleton brakes looked.

I never thought the previous four arm crank looked that bad but I can't see how anyone could say this looks worse. Unless you just don't like the logo-type... tbh, Almost everyone I heard said they hated the hole in the crank (I always preferred it) and now we have it without. I'm fine with it given the other improvments, but would still prefer the hole in the center.

Edit: Lots of photos over on cyclingtips. That photo was way too big!

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by rain dogs

The record crank is nicer looking than the previous 4-arm. Not a fan of the supporting fins on the Super Record. The brakes are not particularly nice. The Front derailleur is damn fine looking in both record and super record. The rear derailleur is good, if we're going to have these offset rear derailleurs that one looks good enough. New wheels look sharp too.

I'd say it's the brakes only that really are off to me. But I really liked how the skeleton brakes looked.

I never thought the previous four arm crank looked that bad but I can't see how anyone could say this looks worse. Unless you just don't like the logo-type...

Lots of photos over on cyclingtips.

I think the hole made the crank look better. That said, maybe the new one will grow on me

[thwart]

I don't know how folks are upset about the looks of the crank... to me it actually looks cleaner than the previous 11 speed version with the central hole.

That said, neither one will grace one of my bikes. The classic five 'spoke' crank is much more attractive to my eye (especially on traditional shape non-aero steel bikes), and I don't need the chainring compatibility that four 'spoke' offers.

[corky]

I think the new brake calipers are the best bit.... skeleton brakes look crap on modern frames and just collected road rubbish.

New levers,shifters look great.

Mechs look very Shim*no like to me

The chainset took the biggest hit when it fell from the ugly tree.......

Love that there is now reach adjustment on the shifters.....

Will buy at some point

[rain dogs]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

I think the hole made the crank look better. That said, maybe the new one will grow on me

Ha! Just edited to finish my thoughts. I liked the hole too, but prefer the other aesthetic improvements more. The 'webbing' at the arm on the previous.... not a fan.

[soulspinner]

Originally Posted by tuscanyswe

When 11s came about i wasent thrilled with the looks but its grown on me, well not the 4 arm cranks but the rest.. However i think my thoughts on this is that im even less pleased with the new release than i was when 11s came. This is simply not something i would consider buying at this point, maybe i will come around in 3 years. Who knows..

My sentiments exactly.........

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by thwart

I don't know how folks are upset about the looks of the crank... to me it actually looks cleaner than the previous 11 speed version with the central hole.

That said, neither one will grace one of my bikes. The classic five 'spoke' crank is much more attractive to my eye (especially on traditional shape non-aero steel bikes), and I don't need the chainring compatibility that four 'spoke' offers.

What gives? That picture of the crank does not seem to match the picture of the crank up in this page. This one has te carbon wrapping aroynd the chainrings

[EDS]

Just when I thought it was finally time to upgrade from 10 speed to 11 . . .

[EDS]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

What gives? That picture of the crank does not seem to match the picture of the crank up in this page. This one has te carbon wrapping aroynd the chainrings

Only super record has the fins, not record.