Visiting Japan - worth renting a bike for a day and exploring?

[andy.mgnr]

My partner and I are going to be doing 2 weeks in Japan this November along with her sister, and will most likely be traveling to Tokyo, Kyoto and Hakone (and possibly Nikko). While its in no way a cycling trip, I'd still love to get a ride in to explore some country roads and trails perhaps around Kyoto or Hakone.

Has anyone done something similar and have any suggestions? I haven't had much look in initial searches on the web for easy bike rentals of a decent road/gravel bike - my feeling is it will be a lot of trouble for one ride... but still would be an amazing opportunity to ride in a new country! Also would love any suggestions on where to ride, especially for forest roads and mixed terrain!

[charliedid]

Never been but it's high on the list with or without bikes. I like the idea of a bike rental for a day as part of the bigger trip picture.

You find this? https://roadbikerentaljapan.com/blog...northern-hills

[echappist]

forumite @verticaldoug is the preeminent expert on this

That said, I looked into riding around Kyoto, in particular the eastern part thereof. You can ride out from town and get close to Lake Biwa. Alternatively, take the local commuter rail into Otsu (on the Lake itself) and start riding. You will need a rinko bag though (which you can stash into a locker).

Your biggest hurdle if you don't bring your own bike is rental. There are a few options in Osaka, and a Giant-owned shop near Otsu that will rent bikes. The latter does require some rather circuitous routing though.

[weisan]

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/cycle/

[christian]

When I went to Tokyo, I rented a mamachari bike at Muji of all places and rode all over town. The roads around the imperial palace are open only to cyclists and pedestrians and you can also ride over to the Olympic village. It was great fun. Again, not really a cycling thing, but a great way to see the city.

[andy.mgnr]

Originally Posted by echappist

Your biggest hurdle if you don't bring your own bike is rental. There are a few options in Osaka, and a Giant-owned shop near Otsu that will rent bikes. The latter does require some rather circuitous routing though.

Thanks that's helpful to know, hadn't considered the rinko bag! I think the ideal way to do a one day ride would be to find somewhere local that you can just pick up the bike, ride out, and then return in the same day - anything more might make more sense to rent a bike for at least a few days to make the hassle worth it. I will do some more digging!

[andy.mgnr]

Originally Posted by weisan

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/cycle/

Thanks this is awesome! New show to binge

[rogerspam]

Originally Posted by andy.mgnr

My partner and I are going to be doing 2 weeks in Japan this November along with her sister, and will most likely be traveling to Tokyo, Kyoto and Hakone (and possibly Nikko). While its in no way a cycling trip, I'd still love to get a ride in to explore some country roads and trails perhaps around Kyoto or Hakone.

Has anyone done something similar and have any suggestions? I haven't had much look in initial searches on the web for easy bike rentals of a decent road/gravel bike - my feeling is it will be a lot of trouble for one ride... but still would be an amazing opportunity to ride in a new country! Also would love any suggestions on where to ride, especially for forest roads and mixed terrain!

I did a bike tour in Japan last year and that was a great experience. You might reach out to the team there because even if you don't end up doing anything with them, Rob (the owner/operator) is super knowledgeable and friendly. He might give you some good ideas if you don't do something with them.

https://biketourjapan.com/

[verticaldoug]

Slight tangent, download the 'GO' app for calling japanese taxis.
https://go.goinc.jp/en/price

I've been in Tokyo for some family obligations the past few days and everyone complains about the lack of taxis. So the Japanese are all using the GO APP which makes finding an empty cab on the street even harder.

I'd rent a car for Hakone from Odawara or Gotemba if possible (Gotemba is probably an easier drive into Hakone with views of Fuji). Get an international license. It is so easy to drive here, and you will have a much better time in Hakone with a car. Be sure to go mid-week to miss the weekend Japanese crowds. The leaves are turning later and later in Japan, but when they turn, the crowds come.


You get views like this as you drive around the rim of the crater.
This is from Kendo 75 on the Odawara side. This was mid-May.


This is hakuba last week.

[2oldTi]

Bicycle is the ideal way to get around Kyoto. Be amazed at the automated bike storage machines. There are many small shops to rent bicycles, including near the bullet train (Shinkansen) station. Don't miss the old food market in Kyoto. There are stores that have been in business for more than 1000 years.

Also, for a real kick, if you are riding the Shinkansen, turn on Apple Maps or Google Maps on you phone...

Enjoy. Amazing place to visit.

[echappist]

Originally Posted by andy.mgnr

Thanks that's helpful to know, hadn't considered the rinko bag! I think the ideal way to do a one day ride would be to find somewhere local that you can just pick up the bike, ride out, and then return in the same day - anything more might make more sense to rent a bike for at least a few days to make the hassle worth it. I will do some more digging!

The aforementioned Giant shop is probably the most ideal for this. It's on the eastern shore of Lake Biwa, and a good bit of the eastern side has a bike path. One can also make a loop around the lower (southern) section of the lake.

It's actually located in a town called Moriyama. This is the official site, and there are instructions for getting to the shop from nearby train station (located ~25 minutes from Kyoto Station).

When I was evaluating my options, I found this trek out a bit tedious. As we had two checked bag allowances, my preference was to bring my own bike (a rim brake bike). Unfortunately, the first time I practiced disassembling and packing my bike was the night before we left, which in effect meant I was underprepared. In the end, I didn't bring my bike.

[Ozz]

Originally Posted by andy.mgnr

Thanks this is awesome! New show to binge

It's pretty cool....we get NHK in our channel line up so I watch whenever I see it's on and I am looking to kill some time....

[jdanton]

I'm here right now (it's hot as hell), with no bike. The cities seem a bit nuts for riding, but I've watched that Cycle Across Japan show on NHK and really want to come back with one. We've been in Nagoya, Suzuka, Kyoto, and now Tokyo.

[corkycalvin]

Should we be concerned about bike theft or it’s safe to park a bike with a standard cable and lock? I’d doubt everyone is using a locker every time they park.

[verticaldoug]

Originally Posted by corkycalvin

Should we be concerned about bike theft or it’s safe to park a bike with a standard cable and lock? I’d doubt everyone is using a locker every time they park.

You can bring a small lock. It's pretty safe. You misunderstand the purpose of the bike locker, it is not to keep the bike from being stolen, but to prevent people from cluttering the sidewalks and roads with their parked bikes.

Particularly, if you are near a station or some other commuter hub, many people ride bikes to the station. You are not allowed to park your bike just any place.

If you have been to London or another large city with a ebike app like Lime, people ride the bikes and leave them everywhere. That just doesn't fly in Japan, hence no Lime Bikes.
So if you lock your bike to some random place on a sidewalk, it probably gets impounded by the police. It's the proverbial 'Don't chain your bike to the fence' sign.