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Old 08-21-2007, 06:22 PM
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FS 2002 Ottrott frame 57cm

I just bought this frame on ebay. Built it up and discovered that it wasn't the Stock Serotta geo that was advertised. I should have verified the geo before bidding, but, I was too trustful. As I was trying to duplicate the geo of my Concours, it's not quite right for me. The frame rides well, looks good, and appears to be in very good condition, but, I'm holding out for an Ottrott that has stock geo or maybe 72.5 on the HTA.

Seat Tube Length: 57
Seat Tube Angle: 73
Horizontal TT Length: 57
TT Downslope Angle: 0
Head Tube Angle: 73.5
Chainstay Length: 41.5
Rear Drop: 8
Head Tube Length: 16.05 cm

Includes Chris King Headset and Ouzo Pro fork with approx 9 3/8 inches of steerer tube. It really wasn't cut very well, so the 9 3/8 is at the smallest distance - I haven't touched it.

I can send lots of additional pictures if you will provide me your email address.
$940. plus actual shipping.
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:30 PM
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An older Ottrott with a 73.5 HTA otherwise seems the same geometries as today? I don't see where the differences are?
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:34 PM
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bro what a deal
i bet you sell this within the hour
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:54 PM
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The difference is in the Head Tube angle. I've gone from 72.5 (custom Crumpton) to 73 on my Concours. The 73.5 bothered me - I'm an old guy, not a racer.

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Old 08-22-2007, 07:34 AM
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The difference is in the Head Tube angle. I've gone from 72.5 (custom Crumpton) to 73 on my Concours. The 73.5 bothered me - I'm an old guy, not a racer.

Jim
Oh my, there is a simpler solution than selling the frame. I'm going with the numbers you gave: If you replace the fork with a lower rake to 4.0, you will increase the trail number. This will, at least mathematically, produce nearly the same rake/trail as your other bikes and not disturb the overall design. I'm counting on you using a 23-25mm tire (and on the smaller side of 25, like a Conti) on all of these bikes. That half to full degree can be worked into a bigger picture. It's always best to see the design as a whole. You're giving this bike away when a viable solution is well within reach (if, of course, you spend the money on the fork).
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:51 AM
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The difference is in the Head Tube angle. I've gone from 72.5 (custom Crumpton) to 73 on my Concours. The 73.5 bothered me - I'm an old guy, not a racer.

Jim
If its the trail you wish to lengthen then get a 40 mm rake fork !

sorry just saw where dbrk said the same thing !
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:24 AM
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:38 AM
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there she goes .. cool deal bro
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:47 AM
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Someone's trash is anothers treasure!

I bet his PM's are about to fill up pretty quickly! Nice bike shame he cannot use it, wish I was more liquid right now too Still PM'ed him anyway though Fixed its your size too No? Get in the ring and roll around on a Serotta again!
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:54 AM
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bro I was tempted last night when i saw it you know how it is bro family comes first... and i'm afraid of she who must be obeyed .
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:08 AM
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bro I was tempted last night when i saw it you know how it is bro family comes first... and i'm afraid of she who must be obeyed .
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I hear that!
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:26 AM
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Hello Abq,

Please let me know if this frame is still avail.

Thanks,

Scott

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Old 08-22-2007, 11:06 AM
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Are you seriously only asking $940.....

That must be a typo?
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Old 08-22-2007, 12:07 PM
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An F2 with the suggested rake...

Was announced on this thread:

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=31445

$100 seems worth a try...

Best of luck.

Joshua


Quote:
Originally Posted by abqhudson
I just bought this frame on ebay. Built it up and discovered that it wasn't the Stock Serotta geo that was advertised. I should have verified the geo before bidding, but, I was too trustful. As I was trying to duplicate the geo of my Concours, it's not quite right for me. The frame rides well, looks good, and appears to be in very good condition, but, I'm holding out for an Ottrott that has stock geo or maybe 72.5 on the HTA.

Seat Tube Length: 57
Seat Tube Angle: 73
Horizontal TT Length: 57
TT Downslope Angle: 0
Head Tube Angle: 73.5
Chainstay Length: 41.5
Rear Drop: 8
Head Tube Length: 16.05 cm

Includes Chris King Headset and Ouzo Pro fork with approx 9 3/8 inches of steerer tube. It really wasn't cut very well, so the 9 3/8 is at the smallest distance - I haven't touched it.

I can send lots of additional pictures if you will provide me your email address.
$940. plus actual shipping.
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Old 08-22-2007, 04:28 PM
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jeez even i am tempted and it is 1cm too long

i agree--change the fork and stem if needed. i don't see for routine riding around how that HTA would make it too twitchy to ride
but, good luck--am sure you won't have it long
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