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Old 08-20-2024, 10:02 AM
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New No22 Reactor

Wow, No22 continues to push the boundaries.

This thing looks wild!

What is that RD situation all about?

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Old 08-20-2024, 10:07 AM
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Old 08-20-2024, 10:08 AM
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Sick !! I’d hate to have received one of the current ones and had this come out., although the current ones are also nice.

Wonder rrp and lead times etc…
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Old 08-20-2024, 10:08 AM
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Old 08-20-2024, 10:13 AM
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Wow, No22 continues to push the boundaries.

This thing looks wild!

What is that RD situation all about?

I guess there’s always a balance between functionality and aesthetics. I could never ride a bike I didn’t like looking at. And this is one of them. (Coming from the perspective of someone who thinks the “Great Divide” struck the perfect balance between functionality and aesthetics)
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Old 08-20-2024, 10:18 AM
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$800 bucks for an RD? Yikes. This does remind me a bit of the cyber truck thread
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Old 08-20-2024, 10:26 AM
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Old 08-20-2024, 10:27 AM
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It's definitely not for me either, but I can certainly appreciate that No22 keeps pushing what is possible out of their shop. Modern carbon frames are looking more wild every year, which in general makes most metal traditionally built bikes look a little dated. They are bringing an answer to that question, for sure.
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Old 08-20-2024, 12:08 PM
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I'd be interested in a study re benefits of this 3d printing aero shaping of tubes vs carbon. Luescher Technik had one vid re why ppl choose CFRP > Ti in most applications these days in aerospace, F1, etc....

I feel like it's a way for No. 22 to keep making Ti bikes but get some of the CFRP/aero crowd, but there may be trade offs vs. the typical Ti tubing-based bike.
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Old 08-20-2024, 12:15 PM
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Further proof that an aero-seeking cyclist fool and his money are soon parted.

I also applaud No. 22's efforts at innovation in ti frame design though much prefer a more classic look.
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Old 08-20-2024, 12:15 PM
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Looks like Coefficient bars are a nice match...
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Old 08-20-2024, 12:32 PM
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It is an accomplishment as an existence proof for a metal aero bicycle and a good talking point for a marketing team, but the economics and performance envelope make zero sense. Carbon layup can accomplish even higher performance at (I'm spitballing) less than 1/5th the cost, and the metal sustainability arguments also make no sense given the cost of running the laser (among many, many other CO2 emitting things that No 22 indulges in).

This bike makes me angry and also I am sure Above Category will sell a lot of them.
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Old 08-20-2024, 12:35 PM
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I'd be interested in a study re benefits of this 3d printing aero shaping of tubes vs carbon. Luescher Technik had one vid re why ppl choose CFRP > Ti in most applications these days in aerospace, F1, etc....

I feel like it's a way for No. 22 to keep making Ti bikes but get some of the CFRP/aero crowd, but there may be trade offs vs. the typical Ti tubing-based bike.
As an art project, I think this bike is awesome. In terms of utility and cost, I think we're still a long ways away from 3D printed titanium making sense for an application like this.

It's also funny to me that they are still using a carbon fiber seat tube, so they apparently recognize some of the advantages of carbon fiber, but make a point of not using it everywhere.

A few years back when weight weenie steel bikes were more a thing, I had plans to build a frame that was all carbon fiber except for the seat tube, and to call it the world's lightest steel frame bike. Never got around to it, but the existential question of how much carbon fiber can a traditionally metal frame fabricator get away with without losing their brand identity remains an interesting one to me.
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Old 08-20-2024, 12:39 PM
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A few years back when weight weenie steel bikes were more a thing, I had plans to build a frame that was all carbon fiber except for the seat tube, and to call it the world's lightest steel frame bike. Never got around to it, but the existential question of how much carbon fiber can a traditionally metal frame fabricator get away with without losing their brand identity remains an interesting one to me.
You could call it the Steel Bike of Theseus, if you will.
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Old 08-20-2024, 01:08 PM
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Sorry, not for me.
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