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10-09-2019, 05:27 PM
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The 80-20 approach advocate by Seiler et al works, but the deal is that the 20 has to be super hard, and the 80 at a real endurance pace.
I agree it works for aging folks. It also works for pros, but the difference is what their 80 is...its like 5-6hr rides at low tempo. Unsustainable for mortals. I dug a deep hole at 58 trying to be 40. 80 20 has been my comeback ritual. Still not there, but I feel like a cyclist again, so long as I don't track my ftp. 
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10-09-2019, 06:58 PM
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That 80 / 20 approach sounds a lot like what Friel advocates in his book, and I think that it works. I base this upon my own experience and that of a number of guys that I ride with who are over 50 (many of whom are still fast into their 70's).
It sounds like the polarized model of training, and one of the key researchers in the area is Stephen Seiler. There is a VeloNews podcast with him (several, actually) that are worth a listen. Here's the description and the link. See Fasttalk episodes 51, 54 and 75. Good luck. High intensity training with Dr. Stephen Seiler. Chris Case / May 31, 2019. In episode 75, we discuss high intensity training within the polarized model, with one of the most influential researchers working today, Dr. Stephen Seiler. https://www.velonews.com/?s=seiler
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#33
10-09-2019, 07:26 PM
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10-10-2019, 10:58 AM
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When I freed myself from feeling I had to compete on my rides, and put my bike computer in the drawer, it opened up many possibilities and pleasures (and more time and flexibility for family and other pursuits). Just my .02.
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10-10-2019, 11:23 AM
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In my cat-3 racing days, the winning moves averaged ~23 mph over hilly terrain for 2-3 hours. Then again 25 mph is doable on flat grounds for group rides. 20 mph on 9W (main cycling road outside of NYC) would actually be a relatively tall order.
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10-10-2019, 04:49 PM
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Thank You Paceline!!
Hey All,
Truly all of your input is appreciated! Again and again the following advice was given" -Be realistic with goal setting -Use strength training to supplement workouts -Get a coach familiar with riders my age and ability -Get extra rest -Be Flexible (this was the most common advice!) -Eat well -Focus on quality workouts and effective time management Not that I'm cheating, but the bike I bought puts you in a time-trial position, and along with aero wheelset with low rolling resistance, having a goal of at least 20 miles an hour for an hour is attainable. Next year attainable, but attainable. Thanks folks, glad you guys are in my "Paceline"! Sorry for cheesy pun. Cheers An if you see a guy on a purple bike weezing along 9W or around Central Park, say hi! Last edited by 19wisconsin64; 10-10-2019 at 05:32 PM.
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#39
10-10-2019, 09:08 PM
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Training is for when you're going to pin on a number.
Go ride, have fun. Fast group rides? Find a group you can hang with - on road and at the cafe. A 12-15 hour a week training schedule is about max for a thirty-something doing a full time job. Consider how that works with your age and lifestyle. Riding is fun. Racing is fun. Training just can't be fun. Don't do it to yourself unless you must. Channeling my Jobst influence here. Will do a big post on readjusting my own cycling life and priorities after I finish this damn Senior Games thing I committed to. Wanna buy a PowerTap G3 wheel?
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10-10-2019, 09:34 PM
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Other things to think about are that our reflexes get slower with age, and, at least in my case, ability to see well in low light deteriorated.
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PM me and we can work out a deal!
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