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Old 10-08-2019, 03:53 PM
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Did he play with P.I.L. as well? Talk about an interesting twist if true...
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Old 10-08-2019, 03:57 PM
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Just like everything else, drumming is constantly evolving and drummers continue to push boundaries that were once thought unimaginable. Toad was an amazing performance at its time, and it is still a great listen for me (especially as a fellow drummer), but it pales by some of the stuff people play these days. I give you the human drum machine David Diepold:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIPITxkzBVk

You might say, that is too fast/not rhythmic enough (he is covering a song by another drummer, by the way), but trust me, what he is doing is far more complex/technical than what Ginger Baker has ever done.

All that said, that doesn't change the fact that Ginger Baker was one of the greatest of his time. I will also be curious to hear what drummers will sound like in another 40 years (assuming I am still alive by then)

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Just listen to how complex and perfect this is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9ey...K-J4kcVkxjc984

Ginger lived the reputation of a wild man drummer too that's for sure, he had a hell of a run.

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Old 10-08-2019, 05:03 PM
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Baker and Bill Laswell on this extraordinary song.
Baker again is original and sets the tone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq7JSic1DtM
Ginger Baker did played with P.I.L. on "Album", but not on that song. Tony Williams played drums on "Rise", which indeed is really a great song.

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Did he play with P.I.L. as well? Talk about an interesting twist if true...
Yes, for 4 tracks on P.I.L.'s "Album", with a lot of other incredible musicians.
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Old 10-10-2019, 04:39 PM
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Middle Passage was the first non indie, non punk album that I dug in my first year at the University of California at Berkeley. Axiom was (is?) a cool label. I think they were calling it jazz when it was released.

https://www.allmusic.com/album/middl...e-mw0000308235
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:23 PM
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Middle Passage was the first non indie, non punk album that I dug in my first year at the University of California at Berkeley. Axiom was (is?) a cool label. I think they were calling it jazz when it was released.

https://www.allmusic.com/album/middl...e-mw0000308235
Great LP
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