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Old 06-07-2018, 06:58 PM
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Insurance Loss - What is comparable to Serotta?

Hi,

My Serotta Nova Special was damaged in my recent move, and the insurance company is trying to find a comparable new bike.

Serotta Nova Special - Columbus SL tubing
Full Shimano Dura-ace 9spd / 10 Spd
Fizik Alliante Saddle
Thompson Master Elite Seatpost
Wheelsmith Gold Build Wheels
Speedplay Titanium Pedals
3TT Stem and Bars Fizik bar tape
Cateye Computer
Cuissi Elite Stainless Cages

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Old 06-07-2018, 07:16 PM
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Independent Fabrication with Super Record.
Or a Trek.
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Old 06-07-2018, 07:19 PM
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Is there a similar steel bike off the shelf? Maybe something Italian?

Man, you had that seatpost in there.
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:11 PM
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Kirk, Bedford, No.22. All with Serotta palmieres, so maybe an insurance argument to be made there.
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:16 PM
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I think you're going to need a DOCUMENTED estimate from a legitimate bicycle shop. I can't imagine the insurance company is going to take your word for it.

You should bring the bike to a shop for a detailed written estimate, and work with them on comparable parts.

Is the bike a total loss or do only certain parts need replacement?

If I had to ballpark a comparable steel frame as a complete bicycle, I'd say just under $6k for a TIG welded steel frame such as an Independent Fabrications Crown Jewel with a Dura-Ace group. I chose IF because their operation is similar to what Serotta was albeit the Nova Special was a stock frame.

Should you or the bike shop really want to get into the weeds on the estimate, you could list a lugged steel frame, which would increase the price but would certainly be comparable to what is being claimed.

Let us know how you make out.
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:22 PM
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:36 PM
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What is a 20+ year old frame worth? It's not a one-off collector's item. The components weren't damaged, right?
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:58 PM
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Lots of the 80s/90s Italian framebuilders are getting back into steel.

Check them: Battaglin et al

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Old 06-07-2018, 09:08 PM
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Wow, they are going to buy a new product?

Yeah, I also vote IF Crown Jewel, with a comparable fork. Or a Gunnar stock frame.
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Old 06-07-2018, 09:11 PM
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i think your comps should be from a comparable sized semi-custom bike builder.

-independant fabrication crown jewel
-seven whateva they call their steel bike
-waterford steel road bike

all with dura ace

i have no idea how they depreciate the value to what you get, probably depends highly on your particular policy; but those three companies are similar in size to the old serotta, so that should be someplace to start i suppose.
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Old 06-07-2018, 09:18 PM
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Yep, prices from small to medium sized builders like Independent would be fair market value for a replacement frame. Seven is another comp to consider.
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Old 06-07-2018, 09:48 PM
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get this new SL frame. http://www.somec.com/en/collection/s...mes/top_class/
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:21 PM
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What's an 89 Camry with 350,00 miles worth?

Take it to a shop, they'll usually do you a solid
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:58 PM
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Kirk, Bedford, No.22. All with Serotta palmieres, so maybe an insurance argument to be made there.
Add Dave Wages of Ellis he is also Serrota alumnus who makes steel bikes.
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:00 PM
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What's an 89 Camry with 350,00 miles worth?

Take it to a shop, they'll usually do you a solid
+1 to both parts. I think you’d be lucky to get into a Mr. Pink or something out of this. But a friendly estimate could help.
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