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Old 06-01-2023, 03:26 PM
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That's a big FD. Maybe the companies should start using 58-60cm frames for their model bikes with the wireless super record. For $15k, at least throw in some "claims" about how aero it is
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Old 06-01-2023, 04:20 PM
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For me at least, one BIG difference between the Denk Supersix from 2012 and the Denk Aethos from 2022 is that the Aethos has a more compliant ride.

My Supersix Evo HM handled just like the Aethos. Both were racy, efficient, flickable. Both changed directions almost telepathically. But the Supersix Evo HM would beat me down on a long (3.5+ hr) rides. The Aethos did not.

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Exactly, the Aethos is acknowledgement and an offering for everyone who knows that bikes were correct 10 yrs ago, and since then most changes are marketing fluff. e.g. One-piece cockpits that make stem angles and handlebar width configs quite challenging if looking to obtain the correct fit. Proprietary seatpost shapes and clamps that when something breaks a couple years later you can't find a replacement of the same shape, or install a new clamp. Enormous manufacturer logos on the downtube, etc
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Old 06-01-2023, 04:42 PM
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I’m a campy guy and I can’t get over how hard this new group sucks. I don’t even want it for $2K. It the ugliest fking groupset in years besides the crank.

It’s hilarious to me that when the prototype leaked a year ago everyone was like there’s no way campy would release something this god awful and yet here we are. Hahahaha

It would be one thing if there was a functional difference to the alternatives but it seems worse in most ways practically. Campy mech shifting always felt better than shimano and the ergonomics were way better and it was lighter.

At least that Aethos paint job looks good.
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Old 06-01-2023, 05:18 PM
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For me at least, one BIG difference between the Denk Supersix from 2012 and the Denk Aethos from 2022 is that the Aethos has a more compliant ride.

My Supersix Evo HM handled just like the Aethos. Both were racy, efficient, flickable. Both changed directions almost telepathically. But the Supersix Evo HM would beat me down on a long (3.5+ hr) rides. The Aethos did not.
Same wheels and tyres on both bicycles, or at least same wheel depth and material and tyre size?
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Old 06-01-2023, 07:44 PM
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I could not do a methodical comparision because the Supersix was rim brake and the Aehtos obviously is not. I had different wheels on them but both were 32-35 mm and both had 28 mm tires (but not the same tires).

However, I had ridden the Supersix with multiple wheels (tubeless alloy, tubeless shallow carbon, tubeless deep-er carbon, tubular carbon) and in every iteration, the Supersix was just harsh over long distances. It would just beat me up.
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Old 06-01-2023, 07:55 PM
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Of course there's the obligatory "wait and see" what the kinks are for campy.
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Old 06-01-2023, 09:14 PM
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I could not do a methodical comparision because the Supersix was rim brake and the Aehtos obviously is not. I had different wheels on them but both were 32-35 mm and both had 28 mm tires (but not the same tires).

However, I had ridden the Supersix with multiple wheels (tubeless alloy, tubeless shallow carbon, tubeless deep-er carbon, tubular carbon) and in every iteration, the Supersix was just harsh over long distances. It would just beat me up.
Cheers thanks. I had a SuperSix not Evo/HM a few years back and occasionally think about another light carbon rim brake race frame. Wondering how then and now compare because I wouldn’t pay now prices…
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Old 06-02-2023, 07:13 AM
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My experience with a Supersix of the same era was identical. It was crazy light and handled very well. But it was non compliant enough that at high speeds on descents it was skittish, and yeah, after 2.5 hrs you were pretty battered.
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Old 10-07-2023, 03:21 PM
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What do you thing of the gearing?

48-32 with a 10-29

I bet it works nice and you get piece of mind the crank will not delaminate

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Old 10-07-2023, 04:59 PM
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All that money and still has exposed brake housing…
Thank goodness! I wouldn't have picked up a frameset if it was hidden.
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Old 10-07-2023, 06:02 PM
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The 'marble countertop' color is interesting, I'll give it that.
Kind of the “This Old House” edition.
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Old 10-07-2023, 07:55 PM
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48-32 with a 10-29

I bet it works nice and you get piece of mind the crank will not delaminate
Your read derailleur will likely explode...or not.
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Old 10-07-2023, 08:32 PM
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Best shot to get one?

Direct to consumer from these guys. Few dealers will make the necessary commitment to actually get one in the door
My LBS has one if anyone is looking for a 56cm.
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Old 10-08-2023, 06:53 AM
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Be the first in your neighborhood to get a Spec. Aethos Super Record 12 speed wireless bike. Only a trivial $15,500.

https://tinyurl.com/2e3ysgrp
The highest end Specialized with etap is $13,000. with Di2 is $13,500

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/c/aethos
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Your read derailleur will likely explode...or not.
BUT, your crank won't..
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