Santa Cruz Stigmata - now with "Gravel Plus" content

[onsight512]

Originally Posted by fa63

Thanks! Looks like that is the max in the back, assuming those 42s measure true to size.

I’ll put calipers on the tire tonight and report back.

[Idris Icabod]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

edit: i'm looking at those pics above, i think you're right, since there is a "cutout" for the 700c tire to live.

I am jonesing for the Ibis Hakka MX. You can run 2.1" tires with 650c wheels or 42 mm tires with 700c wheels.

[geordanh]

You should buy one. Here's mine:



They are incredible bikes. Since I got it in May, I've ridden it 5x more than any other bike I own. Just can't get enough of it. Pic is with Cazadero back/BG RnR front. Right now I have it set up with fenders and G One Speeds. Contemplating getting a second wheelset so I can sell another bike.

650b would be amazing, and if the Hakka MX had been around when I was buying I would be seriously considering. One thing I love about the stigmata though is how stiff the BB area is, and I wonder about that a bit on the Hakka. With road slicks, sprinting on the SC really doesn't feel that much different than it does on a dedicated carbon road bike (my reference point here is primarily a variety of Cervelos).

Has anyone else tried the 42c WTB Resolute on the back to see if it fits? I find the cazadero's tread pattern to be ****e climbing steep loose stuff. Like significantly worse than a 33c proper cx tire. Looking to mix it up a bit.

I also wonder if the 47c riddler would fit up front. There's still a reasonable amount of clearance with a 43c BG RnR.

[ChrisG]

Originally Posted by Corso

My old school Stigmata. I love it.

The old school Stigmatas are so cool. Not too common, either, at least in my vicinity.

[velofinds]

I friggin love these bikes. Someone sell me their small frame orange CC

[fa63]

Originally Posted by Idris Icabod

I am jonesing for the Ibis Hakka MX. You can run 2.1" tires with 650c wheels or 42 mm tires with 700c wheels.

First time I have heard about this Ibis. Looks like a more reasonably priced version of the Open U.P. Hmm...

[12snap]

You can now get the OPEN U.P. in Yeti Turquoise.

https://www.worldwidecyclery.com/blo...dition-new-u-p

[onsight512]

The Contis measure almost exactly 40mm.

[Pelican]

My friend has a new Stigmata but I don't think it fits 650b's. I love my Giant TCX Advanced because it can, and it's still a world-championship winning cross bike with the 700c wheels on it. It really could be the N=1 bike with a couple wheelsets. I run Force CX1 with TRP Spyres and have zero brake rub/noise.

[fa63]

Originally Posted by onsight512

The Contis measure almost exactly 40mm.

Thanks for measuring. I am surprised there is so little clearance when Santa Cruz says there is clearance for 41s. Typically that means there would be at least 5 mm clearance to all sides with an actual 41 in there.

[allezdude]

Originally Posted by geordanh

You should buy one. Here's mine:


They are incredible bikes. Right now I have it set up with fenders and G One Speeds. R.

Sweet- does it have fender mounts?

[fa63]

Ever since Idris Icabod mentioned the Ibis Hakka MX, I have been intrigued by these "gravel plus" bikes with the ability to run 650b wheels. Obviously, there is the Open U.P., but that might be too rich for my blood. As I was searching other options, I came across the KHS Grit 440:



Full carbon frame/fork (with rack and fender mounts), thru axles front and rear, flat mount disc brakes, threaded BB (!!!), and clearance for 27.5 x 47 tires. Plus the geometry looks like it will work really well for me. The one concern I have is the longer chainstays on this bike (435mm) versus some of its competition (for example, the Open UP is 420mm); wonder if that will make it feel sluggish on the road.

Any thoughts?

[owly]

^
Get a lightweight wheelset along with something like Compass SwitchBackHill extralights setup tubeless and that bike would not feel sluggish IMO.

My bike had 435mm chainstays with the above setup and it flies. HTA 71.5

[sparky33]

The Stigmata just got some smart updates for gravel. 2.1s, threaded bb, fenders, stack+ etc
Nice colors too

[JAGI410]

Here's the link to the new Stigmata: https://www.santacruzbicycles.com/en-US/stigmata

That green color is sweet! The Rival build looks pretty solid for the money too.