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Old 03-30-2009, 06:36 PM
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53x39 vs. 52x39

Why would one want a 53x39 vs. 52x39? I get the application of the compact 50x34 and TT 55x42.

But what warrants the one tooth difference between 52 and 53?

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Old 03-30-2009, 06:38 PM
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Why would one want a 53x39 vs. 52x39? I get the application of the compact 50x34 and TT 55x42.

But what warrants the one tooth difference between 52 and 53?

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It started just because it was "one bigger" and it stuck. No really... it did.

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Old 03-30-2009, 06:58 PM
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Actually, I ride 52X38s on 110 bolt circle cranks on 2 of my my road bikes.

I had converted to compact cranks and 50X34 chainrings as a way to be able to climb better.

I got better over time and decided I didn't need the 34t any more.

So I then started an experiment to go back from 50X34 but I didn't want to spend a ton of $$. So the gearing then became 50X36 for a while but I wasn't all that happy still.

Now I've got the 52X38 and I like it a lot.

I run a SRAM 11-26 cassette and the range is a little better in both directions.

Just my 2 cents.

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Old 03-30-2009, 07:02 PM
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The motto of the bike industry is "one more is always better". Why else would 11 speed exist?
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Old 03-30-2009, 07:03 PM
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The motto of the bike industry is "one more is always better". Why else would 11 speed exist?
To prepare for 12 speed?


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Old 03-30-2009, 07:04 PM
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Why else would 11 speed exist?
Because they can't (for now) make a 12 spd.
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Old 03-30-2009, 07:10 PM
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Old 03-30-2009, 07:10 PM
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I've heard it on good authority that 53 makes you go faster
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Old 03-30-2009, 07:13 PM
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Why would one want a 53x39 vs. 52x39?
Because my neighbor had a 52. I mean c'mon; this is America where bigger is always better. The marketing people have us duped.
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Old 03-31-2009, 12:31 AM
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Hi,

When I started riding most bikes came with a 52 X 42 and a 14-28 5-speed freewheel. Shortly after that you'd see people with 53 or 54 tooth rings mated to 13 or 14 cogs. For a while 53 X 42 became the de facto "standard" for racers.

Then as rear cogs got smaller (12 then 11 tooth cogs), the "need" for 54 tooth chainrings diminished.

Personally, I need a 52-11 gear like I need another hole in my head. My training bike has a 52 X 39 setup on the crank. My race bike has the standard 53 X 39 for those odd times when I'm in a large pack on a fast downhill.

OF course, I can't ever seem to buy a crank that comes with a 52 so I end up buying a new chainring and I have a lifetime supply of 53 rings for my low mileage race bikes. <JK>
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:25 AM
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Why would one want a 53x39 vs. 52x39?
I much prefer a 53-tooth over 52-tooth chainring because it has an odd number of teeth. Since almost all chains are in inch increments (i.e. – two teeth), chainring teeth will alternate with each revolution, making it last much longer.

I think that’s also why 39T small rings eventually replaced 42T. Odd is good, although I can't quite figure out why they skipped over the 41T.
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:29 AM
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I much prefer a 53-tooth over 52-tooth chainring because it has an odd number of teeth. Since almost all chains are in inch increments (i.e. – two teeth), chainring teeth will alternate with each revolution, making it last much longer.

I think that’s also why 39T small rings eventually replaced 42T. Odd is good, although I can't quite figure out why they skipped over the 41T.
I'll offer one suggestion why -- The derailleurs were designed to handle a wider total capacity. This allowed gear inches to both expand and contract at the same time -- low gears got lower, high gears got higher -- without having to add a ninth rear cog (well, until later) "Marketing, marketing , marketing"

I'm waiting to see how durable 12-speed will be.

I think you're right about the odd number of teeth. The same can be said for the switch to 11-tooth der. pulleys.

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Old 03-31-2009, 10:37 AM
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Of course with a 39 cog you go 5.64 centimetes farther per crank rotation with a 53 vs. a 52.
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:53 AM
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I'm waiting to see how durable 12-speed will be.:
Centaur 12-speed cassettes will cost $500. And they will need to be replaced every 1,000 miles.
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:01 AM
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I think you're right about the odd number of teeth. The same can be said for the switch to 11-tooth der. pulleys.

Mike in AR
Sorry Mike – bad humor on my part. I find many of the things we as cyclists fixate on kind of funny and this one is a great example – although the question is great in itself since there is almost no difference.

For instance, years ago a group I rode with was discussing a very strong rider who rode with a 54T chainring. The implication was that you had to be super strong to push a 54.

I had to ask if anyone in the group had checked whether he was riding the 17T instead of a 16T cog, because that makes a hell of a lot bigger difference. I honestly don’t think they got it.

BTW, on derailleur pulleys where there is likely much more side load and therefore side wear, having odd teeth is not a bad idea. On chainrings I doubt differences in wear rate from the sides would amount to anything worth mentioning.
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