OT:Espresso Machines - Manual/Lever

[mtechnica]

I still suck at the pavoni but I made drinkable oat milk lattes today.

[scoobydrew]

To address channeling, try the WDT (Weiss Distribution Technique). Basically, before you tamp, give the grounds a stir using a needle, end of a straightened paperclip, toothpick, etc.

[William]

Originally Posted by scoobydrew

To address channeling, try the WDT (Weiss Distribution Technique). Basically, before you tamp, give the grounds a stir using a needle, end of a straightened paperclip, toothpick, etc.

Yup, used that method to good effect.






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[William]

Originally Posted by mtechnica

I still suck at the pavoni but I made drinkable oat milk lattes today.

Takes practice for sure but keep at it, you'll get it dialed in. I think James Hoffman had a video about dialing in your espresso shots...might be worth a look.






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[jkbrwn]

It was only a matter of time. Hoffman on the La Pavoni

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKimj0vRM5A

[William]

Originally Posted by jkbrwn

It was only a matter of time. Hoffman on the La Pavoni

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKimj0vRM5A

Be back in 11 and a half minutes...






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[mwynne]

Oh, I would really like one of those...

[benb]

Yah that video makes me want one.

It looks simple enough I could tear it apart and service it no different than a Moka pot.

And if it's 60 years old and they still make it the same way you know it's not full of total head scratcher price point engineering that makes you go *** when you take it apart and find some piece that is broken and so poorly designed that you wonder if it was ever tested.

[William]

Nice basic video! I never noticed James Bond using one (badly) in a film.

It looks simple enough I could tear it apart and service it no different than a Moka pot.

And if it's 60 years old and they still make it the same way you know it's not full of total head scratcher price point engineering that makes you go *** when you take it apart and find some piece that is broken and so poorly designed that you wonder if it was ever tested.

I agree, super simple robust machine that is easy to service. That's one of the things I like about it. Plus there is a good following with numerous upgrades to add if you want to go that route.







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[William]

Italian machine -> Cycling forum -> Espresso -> Italian cycling company = Campy...they all go together!

https://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/sto..._espresso_cups






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[jkbrwn]

Originally Posted by William

Italian machine -> Cycling forum -> Espresso -> Italian cycling company = Campy...they all go together!


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It'll go marvelously with the Chorus 12 group I just ordered. Perhaps that's how I will convince my wife


In all seriousness, I like the manual aspect of my ROK but don't like the pre-heat cycle and whatnot. The LP is the solution to me. I have no issue with spending on something that lasts decades either so I definitely sense one coming to me in my future

[mwynne]

Originally Posted by jkbrwn

It'll go marvelously with the Chorus 12 group I just ordered. Perhaps that's how I will convince my wife


In all seriousness, I like the manual aspect of my ROK but don't like the pre-heat cycle and whatnot. The LP is the solution to me. I have no issue with spending on something that lasts decades either so I definitely sense one coming to me in my future

I'm still meh on my ROK personally (I do like the manual experience though). Cafelat Robot has a lot of appeal (and reportedly a bit less preheating faff). Honestly the biggest draw for me with the LP is the option of steaming milk on occasion (this is ZERO budget for one, but I might tuck that away in the back of my mind).

[scoobydrew]

Speaking of cycling branded/related coffee gear, anyone have a Chris King tamper they want to part with?

[jkbrwn]

Originally Posted by mwynne

I'm still meh on my ROK personally (I do like the manual experience though). Cafelat Robot has a lot of appeal (and reportedly a bit less preheating faff). Honestly the biggest draw for me with the LP is the option of steaming milk on occasion (this is ZERO budget for one, but I might tuck that away in the back of my mind).

I’m okay with mine. It was a means to an end. The robot didn’t exist yet, I didn’t love the look of the flair and I didn’t want a great big espresso machine. I think I’ll go one of two avenues next - something like a gaggia classic/rancillio silva or the La Pavoni. They’re all supposedly relatively easy to maintain. All I know is I don’t want to be boiling the kettle to make espresso!

I do have decent results with the ROK though. Good extraction, relatively syrupy, tasting notes seem to come through and decent cream. It’s difficult to tell just how decent it is though as I’ve not used these coffees in anything but the ROK. But, for $70 in an open box deal, I really can’t complain.

[William]

I like it...but it does scare me a little.




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