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Thanks for this thread. With respect for this unfolding situation, I've always been captivated by how ships work.
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amazing that I gained a far greater understanding about this incident here than reading the Wall Street Journal.
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Yup, the USN will let him retire but retire he will.
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Not so sure. I suspect he was asleep in his cabin when this happened, which would account for his injuries. I'm not ready to throw anyone under the bus on this one yet. The box boat's weird track has me completely stumped. I am also afraid that the missing sailors are trapped in the damaged / flooded areas. Not a good prognosis. Fingers crossed for a good outcome. CaptStash.... Last edited by CaptStash; 06-17-2017 at 01:28 PM. |
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was he legally drunk...maybe yes, maybe no. http://www.evostc.state.ak.us/index....=facts.details |
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From a liability perspective you might be right. From a PR vantage, I dunno...
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Both prescriptions drugs and the pilots medical conditions were not disclosed on his annual forms to the USCG as required and did play a part in his conviction. But what remains is the multiple human errors including the lack of understanding of the vessel's electronic charting system and the meaning of the 2 red triangles (red buoys) marking the towers that he struck. He made the decision to leave port in thick fog (less than 1/2 nautical mi visibility) with no forward lookout posted-several other large commercial vessel pilots chose not to leave port that morning. He also claimed the radar was unreliable but it was in fact reading correctly. He failed to review the ships paper charts when he doubted the electronic systems. He gave the commands which led to the collision of the tower. As the pilot of one of the 1st emergency responders on scene my point was it was human error and have since corrected my previous statement to give a long drawn out explanation instead of a quick read. Last edited by firemanj92; 06-17-2017 at 04:46 PM. |
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Agreed. He was actually the only pilot I ever had a serious problem with. I had it o ut with him when he put my 190,000 ton ship in a close quarters situation docking at Benicia because he wanted to got to dinner with the pilot of the ship behind us. Needless to say, I was not his biggest fan. CaptStash.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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This was already a plot twist in a James Bond Film. Some evil media conglomerate wanted improved ratings , so manipulated the GPS tracking so both ships thought they were elsewhere but actually sent on a collusion course by the evil news conglomerate to get ratings.
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Uncommon carriers is a great McPhee book, I really like his books.
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Thank you for the great information. If you feel up to it it would be great if you could update us some if you learn anything interesting. I am personally really interested in complicated control systems and how things can go wrong. It is unfortunate that the news tends to cover these things so superficially.
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