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Old 10-22-2019, 10:53 AM
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Vintage bikes with ~59ST and 55-56TT?

Looking for a cheap winter bike project. I saw an ad locally for an early 70's PX10 (too large at 60cm TT) for $250. Large tire clearance, enough for 38's under the Mafac racer brakes. Longer ST than TT. I'd like to go for that "French Fit" look.

What other vintage bikes came with similar geo and Mafac brakes? I would like to stick to European brands (maybe US as well).

Thanks.

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Old 10-24-2019, 12:10 PM
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My Nobilette is US-made and has a super-tight wheelbase, though is stable and still comfortable enough for nearly all kinds of riding.

Actual TT is 56cm, but my toes hit the front tire heavily and the steep HT angle and minimal fork offset/rake keep the front-center to the absolute minimum needed for safe climbing and for getting out of the parking lot.

Keep in mind that any frame's reach is affected by the seattube angle to the tune of about 1cm per degree in your size range, so an old (pre-1973) PX10 might have a 72-degree seattube reigning in the frame's reach dimension. That bike has the look!

Oh, and here's my well-used Nobilette:


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Old 10-24-2019, 12:26 PM
mhespenheide mhespenheide is offline
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I think I told you this via private message, but I'd keep an eye out for Raleigh and Schwinn. Their top tubes tend to run a little short.

Here's one option on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Vintag...8AAOSwLSBdNKOM

58.5x56, both CtC.
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Old 10-24-2019, 12:45 PM
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My Nobilette is US-made and has a super-tight wheelbase, though is stable and still comfortable enough for nearly all kinds of riding.

Actual TT is 56cm, but my toes hit the front tire heavily and the steep HT angle and minimal fork offset/rake keep the front-center to the absolute minimum needed for safe climbing and for getting out of the parking lot.

Keep in mind that any frame's reach is affected by the seattube angle to the tune of about 1cm per degree in your size range, so an old (pre-1973) PX10 might have a 72-degree seattube reigning in the frame's reach dimension. That bike has the look!

Oh, and here's my well-used Nobilette:

Thanks for the info. Nice Nobilette!

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I think I told you this via private message, but I'd keep an eye out for Raleigh and Schwinn. Their top tubes tend to run a little short.

Here's one option on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Vintag...8AAOSwLSBdNKOM

58.5x56, both CtC.
That Raleigh is about exactly what I'm looking for. Sent an offer to the seller. Thanks for the heads up!!
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Old 10-24-2019, 03:47 PM
SlackMan SlackMan is offline
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OP must be built just like me! Following this thread because I'd like to know answers too.
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Old 10-24-2019, 05:40 PM
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Tall and short....

Miyata...

Gazelle...

Batavus...
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Old 10-24-2019, 08:11 PM
classtimesailer classtimesailer is offline
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Consider the 1986 Centurion Ironman. I had a 62CTT with a 57 Ctc TT. But I didn't need that height. My 87 Ironman had a 60 cm seat tube and a 57 TT. I currently have a 24 inch CTT 1984 Centurion Turbo with a 57 top tube. The later 88s and 89s had longer top tubes. The Tubo is wicked nice riding and has ample room for 28 GP4000s. Up sometimes Mafacs on it.
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Old 10-24-2019, 09:07 PM
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I wish I still had my Turbo. One of my favorite bikes that I sold on a whim. Color me a dumb a$$.
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