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I know absolutely nothing about rowing, but to give the guy the benefit of the doubt - he had pretty good looking form on the bike, smooth and graceful, especially compared to some other grand tour riders. Maybe that can transfer to the water.
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What was his category that he finished 21st? Watching the video, his flub doesn't look like he looses 20 seconds, although it could have psyched him out. The guy on machine #25 is flailing like a gym rat—there's no way that guy has ever been in a boat.
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Love these keyboard rats
Wiggins might have some potential
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i'm pretty sure a bunch of us posting used to row...
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I get it
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If a lot of us who used to row were training as much as he did, we'd probably be pretty close to his 2ks and likely a hell of a lot lighter than him. We'd have none of the crazed media hype though. Hence our critiques of him. Plus the whole erg thing, is the equivalent of any of us hopping on a trainer and claiming that our power numbers mean we could make a world tour squad, there's still the whole tactics, technique, and racing portion
If you want to check out a similar story, look up Hamish Bond from New Zealand. 2 Olympic gold medals and something like 12-13 world championships, along with an 8 year unbeaten streak in the mens pair, now trying his hand at Cycling Time Trials coming from rowing. He finished decently at WORLDs for NZ in the TT and who knows where he ends up with 2 more years.. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/97067709/early-puncture-costs-hamish-bond-in-world-championships-time-trial Last edited by ltwtsculler91; 12-14-2017 at 09:28 AM. |
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Technique and practice, over years, make for the 'ten thousand hours' that separate the good from the really good. The difference between the Concept 2 in my basement and my scull out on the water is significant, as conditions on the water are not usually uniform. And in an 8 or a 4, learning to row in close coordination with others is not nothing. Its late in an athletic career for Sir BW to get that knack, but I applaud him for trying, and hope that he experiences the joy of at least one really great day when everyone clicks and the boat rises out of the water and just flies. That happened for me a few times bitd; it was the best.
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i think i'd be just a bit miffed if he somehow ended up on the team for publicity when it's clear that where he's at he doesn't deserve that spot. that's the main point of contention for me. either he doesn't realize that he's nowhere close, or some nonsense in selection happens. also i don't really understand this "he's doing it now, you used to" logic. if i did a 2k this morning, or a 10k, or a 20k, does that make my analysis any more valid than if i didn't? |
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Not to start a fight here like on rowing forums, but the gap between the top of the Dad Vail list and the bottom of the EARC/Pac12/IRA is pretty big these days. DV powerhouses like Michigan, Virginia, Hobart, FIT, etc. which have lots of dedicated, talented athletes, struggle to make it out of the 4th level final at IRAs. A notable exception is GW that has nearly made the jump. This isn't to say there aren't a few international standard athletes in those DV schools. Several notable US National team members and olympians have come from programs like Ohio State, Temple, Virginia and Michigan, but those programs may only find one or two of those really great athletes every 5-10 years. The big programs will have 4-5 of those guys/class. That's what makes the difference between DV speed and IRA speed. |
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I rowed at Wisconsin a million years ago. I rowed heavies, because there was no lightweight team there and then. I wasn't particularly good—and not just because I only weighed 160 and was relatively short—but my erg times were still roughly equivalent to what Wiggins is pulling now.
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