Locktite or anti-seize for Philwood BB?

[weaponsgrade]

I recently built up a bike with an old Philwood square taper bb I had. It's English threading. Philwood says to use threadlocker to install so I used blue Locktite. But now I'm wondering if I should use grease or anti-seize instead even though Phil didn't specifically mention. I can't remember what I did last time, but I do remember having to take a saw to a seized bb once. Does Locktite also work as an anti-seize protectant?

[ultraman6970]

Never used those BBs, but IME just a lot of grease and teflon tape will do the work just fine.

[NHAero]

Been using them in steel and Ti frames for 40 years with antiseize not Loctite. Never came loose. Both the stainless and aluminum retaining rings.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by weaponsgrade

I recently built up a bike with an old Philwood square taper bb I had. It's English threading. Philwood says to use threadlocker to install so I used blue Locktite. But now I'm wondering if I should use grease or anti-seize instead even though Phil didn't specifically mention. I can't remember what I did last time, but I do remember having to take a saw to a seized bb once. Does Locktite also work as an anti-seize protectant?

Love Phil stuff, know a lot of those guys but I have been using grease or antisieze in these for over 30 years. I also put grease INSIDE both cups AND use 2 tools..install TIGHT..

[mt2u77]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Love Phil stuff, know a lot of those guys but I have been using grease or antisieze in these for over 30 years. I also put grease INSIDE both cups AND use 2 tools..install TIGHT..

I'm curious why 2 tools are recommended for an English bb. Wouldn't the opposing right hand and left hand threads cause it to cinch up with just one tool?

[AngryScientist]

grease. always grease in any BB.

[austex]

Originally Posted by mt2u77

I'm curious why 2 tools are recommended for an English bb. Wouldn't the opposing right hand and left hand threads cause it to cinch up with just one tool?

Don't you know OP only uses superior I-talian threaded bottom-brackets

Yes, English bb can get by with one tool, just a bit easier to fine-tune side-side if'n you don't have to swap the tool forth and back.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by mt2u77

I'm curious why 2 tools are recommended for an English bb. Wouldn't the opposing right hand and left hand threads cause it to cinch up with just one tool?

Yessir but 2, pushing same direction with 2 tools, with the vastly inferior english threaded BB, makes sure it's TIGHT.

[mtechnica]

Any of those should prevent galvanic corrosion which is the main issue. Might consider using blue on an Italian BB since they tend to come loose

[mt2u77]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Yessir but 2, pushing same direction with 2 tools, with the vastly inferior english threaded BB, makes sure it's TIGHT.

Ha ha! I walked into that one, didn't I. Thanks.

[Ralph]

Talking about Reverse threaded drive side and English....and then Italian...….I remember my Dad's 49 Desoto, and 53 Chrysler.....both has reverse threaded lug nuts on passenger side wheels. Idea then was so they wouldn't come loose.

[bigbill]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Yessir but 2, pushing same direction with 2 tools, with the vastly inferior english threaded BB, makes sure it's TIGHT.

I use two tools, even bought an extra socket and bar so I could tighten at the same time. I also used the included blue locktite. Never had an issue getting one out, even after using it for a few years in Hawaii commuting.

[bicycletricycle]

same here. except only 20 years

Originally Posted by NHAero

Been using them in steel and Ti frames for 40 years with antiseize not Loctite. Never came loose. Both the stainless and aluminum retaining rings.

[Don49]

Not exactly what you are asking, but you might enjoy a thread I started "Phil Wood BB Install - Need Help" Some good PW BB info there.

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=202735

[kingpin75s]

I run a lot of Phil SqT BBs.

Phil Wood grease on all cup threads and a dab of blue.

Purple generally works as well, but blue is what is recommended.

As stated, you need 2 tools to install properly.