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Old 11-05-2024, 01:20 PM
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A little background here.

I've got two bikes with Record groupsets. One 10 speed and the other 11 speed, both ultratorque cranksets.

The 10 speed is compact gearing while the 11 speed is classic gearing. Where I live I have no issues running either, BUT I would like to take the 11 speed bike into the Alleghanies this upcoming July.

Here's my question:

Would there be any issues swapping the 10 speed Record crank onto the bike with the 11 speed groupset? I'd swap them back when I get back home.

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Old 11-05-2024, 01:51 PM
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I don't have firsthand experience with this particular configuration change, but 99% certain the 10 speed crank will work just fine with the 11 speed chain, cassette, and derailleurs. There have been many posts over the years reporting this.

Edit: per comments below, I was only focused on the speeds -- you will certainly have to adjust the FD and possibly the chain to reflect the swap from standard to compact.
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Old 11-05-2024, 02:34 PM
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I’ve done the opposite - gone from 10sp/53-39 to 11sp/50-34. I suspect my experience might be similar. 10sp otherwise.

Spacing between the rings is the same, but if you are using the standard fder you will likely have to move it down a bit to fit the compact chainring.

Also you’ll have more links to take up now with the rder, you likely will have to remove a few links in your chain to keep things crisp.
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Old 11-05-2024, 02:39 PM
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Should not be a problem as long as you properly adjust everything.
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Old 11-05-2024, 03:37 PM
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Would there be any issues swapping the 10 speed Record crank onto the bike with the 11 speed groupset? I'd swap them back when I get back home.
I’ve run 11 spd Campy drivetrain bikes with 10 spd cranks… no issues whatsoever. That said, you may want a slightly shorter chain, with 53/39 > 50/34, as noted above.
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Old 11-05-2024, 03:59 PM
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Good reminder to shorten the chain, move the FD, and possibly longer shift cable.

All worth it to not spend upwards of $300 on a crankset
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Old 11-05-2024, 09:32 PM
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You definitely want a compact crank and the lowest cassette range possible when riding in the Allegheny mountains. What specific parts?
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Old 11-06-2024, 07:25 AM
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You definitely want a compact crank and the lowest cassette range possible when riding in the Allegheny mountains. What specific parts?
I've ridden some of the Blue Ridge area and sections of the Rockies so I'm no stranger to climbing. Hell, I took my 86 Fuso on classic gearing with Dur-Ace 7400 up Magnolia near Boulder a few years back. It's doable but not ideal. I might do mid-compact over full compact for this tour.

Here's the tentative route so far. There could be some minor tweaks and updates

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48920614
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Old 11-06-2024, 07:48 AM
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A little background here.

I've got two bikes with Record groupsets. One 10 speed and the other 11 speed, both ultratorque cranksets.

The 10 speed is compact gearing while the 11 speed is classic gearing. Where I live I have no issues running either, BUT I would like to take the 11 speed bike into the Alleghanies this upcoming July.

Here's my question:

Would there be any issues swapping the 10 speed Record crank onto the bike with the 11 speed groupset? I'd swap them back when I get back home.

Thanks.
No issue, no problem. You'll need to lower, adjust the front derailleur and 'maybe' take a link out of the chain...BUT NO issue using a 10s crank on an otherwise 11s system.
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Here's the tentative route so far. There could be some minor tweaks and updates

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48920614
It's pretty straightforward on the GAP from Pittsburgh to Cumberland and then the fun begins.
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Old 11-07-2024, 06:36 AM
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It's pretty straightforward on the GAP from Pittsburgh to Cumberland and then the fun begins.

Oh yes, I'm very much looking forward to it. Especially the climb up Wintergreen.
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Old 11-07-2024, 03:51 PM
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Oh yes, I'm very much looking forward to it. Especially the climb up Wintergreen.
Not too much along the GAP from Pittsburgh to Confluence, but here are a few places of interest once there. Spend a few days in Pittsburgh if you can, as there is a lot to see and do.

River's Edge Cafe Bed & Breakfast Confluence (reservations) right on GAP trail
Fallingwater
Kentuck Knob
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Oh yes, I'm very much looking forward to it. Especially the climb up Wintergreen.
Don't underestimate the climb before that, up Vesuvius from the west. That's a beaut. Steep and winding. The downhill on the other side, what we call Monte Bello, is also a nice, long challenging climb when approached from the east. For you, enjoy the downhill.

Wintergreen gets super-tough once you get to the right turn into the resort. From there to the top is a tough few miles, for sure. Good pavement, though.
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Old 11-08-2024, 06:08 AM
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Don't underestimate the climb before that, up Vesuvius from the west. That's a beaut. Steep and winding. The downhill on the other side, what we call Monte Bello, is also a nice, long challenging climb when approached from the east. For you, enjoy the downhill.

Wintergreen gets super-tough once you get to the right turn into the resort. From there to the top is a tough few miles, for sure. Good pavement, though.
My buddy who put together this route has also warned me about Vesuvius. Hoping I don't burn out my 12 year old son on these climbs.
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Old 11-08-2024, 08:50 AM
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Does your 12yo like roller coasters? When you leave the Point in Pittsburgh, in about 30-40 minutes you’ll be riding past Kennywood Park, which receives visitors from around the world to ride the coasters.

https://www.kennywood.com/prepare-yo...mation/history
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