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bearings vs bushings: RD jockey wheels
because they are inexpensive, and seem to work well, i have Centaur RD's on a few bikes. i was giving my gravel bike a thorough cleaning last night and took a look at the jockey wheels and gave the bottom one a spin without the chain on it, and oof, gritty as hell.
pulled the RD apart and was surprised that the campy jockey wheels dont use bearings, but use bushings, which took some "convincing" to come apart. i would have guessed there were bearings back there, but nope. anyway, this is probably fine for road, but i think for a gravel bike that sees a lot of wet, silty gritty conditions, bushings are non-ideal. the inside surfaces of the wheels are pretty scored, so i think these are toast. time for an upgrade!
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Derailleur pulleys have used bushings since the derailleur was first invented, and even today most derailleurs use bushings. Bushings are cheaper, and generally last longer than ball bearings in this application. Sure, bushings slowly grind down over time, but bushings have more contact area and grind down slower than ball bearings, which can go south in a hurry in gritty conditions.
In my experience, bushings continue to turn after plastic pulley teeth are worn down, whereas ball bearings frequently fail before the plastic pulley teeth are gone. Ball bearings can save Watts (which is why I use them), but they have to be replaced more often. |
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which ones do you use Mark?
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Chisholm's Custom Wheels Qui Si Parla Campagnolo Last edited by oldpotatoe; 02-25-2020 at 10:26 AM. |
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I wasn't aware of the longevity differences between bushings and bearings, though. Last edited by weiwentg; 02-25-2020 at 10:25 AM. Reason: corrected link |
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closing the loop. installed some Hope wheels. i figure Hope knows a thing or two about playing in the dirt.
plus....purple.
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Bushings are much better... I used the cartridge bearing version (bullseye? ringle? can't remember who made them, but they were purple) in the 90s on my mountain bike, they seized in a muddy/gritty race (I thought/assumed they would last forever) and tore off my rear derailleur. It was a 30 mile single loop so I had to walk/push about 10 miles since I didn't have a chain tool. Never again. edit and ps: the top pulley needs a little "float" to center itself (well, at least it used to) and that also leads to bushings being a better choice
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good reminder. i'll keep an eye on them to see if they get gritty and hopefully catch before seizure !
on the bike now. shifting seems the same, though this is on a friction shift set-up.
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The purple is hawt though. |
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Angry,
On my cyclocross/gravel bikes my jockey wheels have looked like yours or worse every time I get around to maintaining them-lots of grit in and out. A toothbrush, some mineral spirits and running a cloth through the bores of bushings and wheels, reassemble with medium waterproof grease (I like Bell Ray blue motorcycle grease) will make them spin smoothly between your fingers. Back on the bike they feel good. Do I lose maybe a 10th of a watt? Maybe. Is my wallet heavier? Definitely. |
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speed holes, they make the bike go faster
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