Irrational desire to ride a Pinarello Dogma

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by rallizes

I'm curious why pinarello and not colnago

Have ridden a C60 and wasn't blown away - expecting the Dogma to be a bit more technologically advanced. Maybe that's wishful thinking.

[Kirk007]

I rode a C60 and F8 back to back at Element Cycles. My take, the C60 rides like a Colnago - calm, steady, assured and a bit "slower" if you will, to respond to input than many high end bikes. The F8 handled, to me, more like Peg Marcelo, more responsive to intentional inputs, and more reactive to unintentional body movement etc, a bike you needed to stay on top of. My guess is the difference is geometry than technology and which ride you prefer

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[rallizes]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

Have ridden a C60 and wasn't blown away - expecting the Dogma to be a bit more technologically advanced. Maybe that's wishful thinking.

interesting

i will look forward to your take on the Dogma

if a C60 can't do it what will!

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by rallizes

interesting



i will look forward to your take on the Dogma



if a C60 can't do it what will!

Kirk Onesto JKS or a Spectrum

But those are highly rational choices...

This thread is/was about irrational desires.

[SoCalSteve]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

Have ridden a C60 and wasn't blown away - expecting the Dogma to be a bit more technologically advanced. Maybe that's wishful thinking.

Sold my C60 pretty quickly after riding my F8 a few hundred miles. No comparison in my humble opinion. The C60 truly beat me up and was not nearly as much fun to ride as the F8.

If what you mean by technology is the shape of the tubes and how everything just comes together better, than yes, you will be pleased by the Dogma. If you use DI2, it has a nifty spot on the downtube for the junction box.

[weisan]

[KarlC]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

Have ridden a C60 and wasn't blown away - expecting the Dogma to be a bit more technologically advanced. Maybe that's wishful thinking.

Originally Posted by Kirk007

I rode a C60 and F8 back to back at Element Cycles. My take, the C60 rides like a Colnago - calm, steady, assured and a bit "slower" if you will, to respond to input than many high end bikes. The F8 handled, toe, more like Peg Marcelo, more responsive to intentional inputs, and more reactive to unintentional body movement etc, a bike you needed to stay on top of. My guess is the difference is geometry than technology and which ride you prefer

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Originally Posted by SoCalSteve

Sold my C60 pretty quickly after riding my F8 a few hundred miles. No comparison in my humble opinion. The C60 truly beat me up and was not nearly as much fun to ride as the F8.

If what you mean by technology is the shape of the tubes and how everything just comes together better, than yes, you will be pleased by the Dogma. If you use DI2, it has a nifty spot on the downtube for the junction box.

I rode a C60, its a great bike and I loved looking at it, but somehow the ride was just a bit boring, maybe I needed more time on it, maybe its all in what we are use to?

The above comments are in line with my thoughts and a lot of reading I did by other owners of modern Colnago vs Pinarello.

In the end ride what you like.

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[Clean39T]

Over the weekend the wife Andi were talking about traveling to Portugal and Spain w my folks this fall...if I could go a week early for an InGamba experience, that'd take care of all of this and more. Though more likely I'd just be fitting in some riding on the family trip and hoping to find something fun to ride over there.

@KarlC - truer words have rarely been spoken..

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[rallizes]

@KarlC

What size C60 did you ride

[pdonk]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

Over the weekend the wife Andi were talking about traveling to Portugal and Spain w my folks this fall...if I could go a week early for an InGamba experience, that'd take care of all of this and more. Though more likely I'd just be fitting in some riding on the family trip and hoping to find something fun to ride over there.

@KarlC - truer words have rarely been spoken..

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If you go to Spain, and can make it to Girona check out https://theservicecoursegirona.com/

Have know the owner for years, great guy.

And they have a coffee "empire" going as well.

[KarlC]

Originally Posted by rallizes

@KarlC

What size C60 did you ride

The C60 was a 52S, I rode it back to back with my BMC TMR01. I loved many things about my BMC, but it was a 56 so a bit big for me, and the BMC was a bit harsh of a ride for what I like also. I was considering selling the BMC at the time, but when riding the C60 and BMC TMR01 back to back, I liked the BMC more so I was happy to keep it a while longer.

That was some time ago so who knows now, maybe a long weekend of riding a C60 would change my mind again?

For now I am enjoying slowly building the Pina Dogma F8 InGamba I have and looking forward to putting some miles on it.

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[beeatnik]

My take.

I dug the F10. Smooth, composed, stiff. Which is to say smoother, stiffer and more stable feeling than the C60. That said, we're talking the proverbial marginal gains. And the ride is essentially anonymous. It feels like a carbon bike in the least desirable way. Guys around here would say it feels dead (dull, plasticky and heavy). Ah, but it's a fun bike! In the end it just made me appreciate my C60 more.

Being a bike connoisseur is so weird.

[Clean39T]

The dream is still alive, and the desire still real...



https://www.excelsports.com/main.asp...jor=1&minor=54

Alas, the purse does not overfloweth with yon Moots RSL in the stable now.

[54ny77]

that's one seriously ugly bike. as in beaten with an ugly stick and left to rot in the desert hideous. and unlike others you've bought, it will continue to not only get uglier with each passing year, it's of-the-moment tech will be supplanted by the latest & greatest, rendering it that much more of a has-been.



please, pour some cold water over your head and visualize your prior clear thinking:

[Ozz]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

The dream is still alive, and the desire still real...

https://www.excelsports.com/main.asp...jor=1&minor=54
...

Is it just me, or does it look like something is wrong with the way the fork fits against the bottom of the head tube?