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03-03-2021, 10:02 AM
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I have both types of brakes. My Firefly is a pure road bike with clearance maxed at 28. Wheels are very light alloy with Easton R90SL rims. Brakes are DA9000. These brakes are awesome but I don't ride this bike on rainy days, to me, that's what bikes with fenders and disc brakes are for. So if it's dry weather service this bike will see, rim brakes. Wet weather, discs.
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03-03-2021, 10:16 AM
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In these discussions like this, I think it’s always important to think about what YOU want...You know, the guy paying the Bill. This consideration is as opposed to what the INDUSTRY wants you to have. Sometimes those two things get confused, and the industry spends a significant amount of money and effort to make sure that they are confused.
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03-03-2021, 10:16 AM
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Also I would consider maintenance. I am not sure about hydraulic disc brake failure, but replacing brake cables in my mind is way easier and less "messy".
Even on my gravel bike, it had TRP Sypre cable disc, and I upgraded to GRX Di2, and kept the cable brakes, did a mullet build and used ultegra di2 on the hoods and GRX for the derailleurs, it was just easier than figuring out hydraulic.
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#49
03-03-2021, 10:19 AM
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When I got it, I thought, this bike is going to beat the hell out of me. The tubes are huge with what looks like no consideration for compliance. What's with that brake bridge on a disc bike? And those massive lugs. I was very happily surprised. With only 25mm tires, the ride is impressively smooth. It still transmits bumps—an OPEN Min.d or Factor O2 will absorb more of the hit—but if you're going downhill, you don't have to worry about road irregularities disrupting you, the bike maintains its stability through everything. And when it comes to road buzz it quiets down the road to glass. At speed downhill, I found the C64 needs a little extra coaxing for any changes of direction take . I wouldn't say the bike needs to be wrestled, it's much to refined for that description, but a change of line or a fast, sharp turn take a little coersion and I sometimes find myself going wider than I'm used to. Sometimes that's because the smooth ride brought me in hot, but the correction takes a little extra work. On the flip side it is most composed carbon bike I've ever ridden, overmatched by any bike only by my vintage Bottecchia. It's operatic, it never loses its composure and I feel like I'm snowboarding on the freshest powder.
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03-03-2021, 10:33 AM
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When seated, I never quite feel the C64 is working with my pedaling cadence like the Min.d or the R5 I rode did. Yet there are periods, on the longer, flatter portion of a climb, when I'll realize that I'm really humming along. The bike feels motorized and I imagine I'm channeling my inner Jens Voigt. And in the end, my Strava climbing segments on the C64 are close enough to what they were on my Look that it could easily come down to cheerios vs oatmeal.
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03-03-2021, 10:54 AM
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I figure I can always get a Factor, Parlee, Bianchi, or OPEN in 5-10 years, and the "soul" of those bikes might not be drastically different from today. Did you ride Factor and OPEN for direct comparison? How were those in handling?
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03-03-2021, 10:59 AM
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I find the disc brakes (when they are properly tuned) match the C64 personality perfectly. There is plenty of power but its delivery is smooth and linear, providing all the power you need but without urgency.
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03-03-2021, 11:02 AM
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03-03-2021, 11:10 AM
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It's also probably the best climbing bike I've ever ridden. It feels like the whole bike just coils up with each pedal stroke and thrusts you forwards. I test rode it back to back with an R5 and on the same hill segment, I thought I would die on the R5, decided to stop halfway up. On the OPEN, I stood the entire segment, felt great, and then rode to the bottom and climbed it again, seated the whole ways. However, that rear end was a handful on the descent. The steering is really quick and the rear end skipped all over the place. Staying on topic here, I don't really like Red disc brakes. Much less linear than Shimano and with the skipping rear of the OPEN, the rear wheel kept skidding. They're probably much better on the C64 though, if you really like the rest of SRAM's drivetrain.
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03-03-2021, 11:21 AM
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I actually liked the O2's ride better than the C64. It absorbed the bumps better, the steering is quicker and the rear triangle is livelier. I felt like the bike was working with me more and it was more responsive when I needed it to change direction. On long straights, again the O2 had more buzz than the C64, but I found myself cruising along in the big ring (unheard of for me), something that's more of a struggle to do on the C64. But again, in the end the Strava times for the same segment on both bikes were similar. This might be sacrilege to say but I'm a visual person and since the bikes are close enough in performance (but different in "soul") and the C64 is so beautiful to me, I'm happy to have it for that reason alone. That feeling when you walk up to your bike and you can't wait to get on, I think it's hard to match the C64 there. Last edited by elladaddy; 03-03-2021 at 11:44 AM.
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03-03-2021, 11:33 AM
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It's not an adventure until something goes wrong. - Yvon C.
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03-03-2021, 01:03 PM
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