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I used to ride with Kyle, one of the two guys behind Berd spokes - he was my leadout man's roommate. I forget exactly how they started investigating using this material for spokes, but they did several years of development and testing before even building a website and telling people about them. I think even before they did that, they had a major euro pro team asking them for demo wheels built with Berd spokes!
I remember picking up a traditionally-laced deep carbon wheelset that he had built with his spokes and it was shockingly light. |
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I think this is one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time, very innovative.
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Comes in black? Maybe a little more palatable. But, very innovative and I would imagine will lead to more advanced and refined technology. |
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I'm still pretty amazed by picking up this wheel.
This same customer has a light wheelset I built for them a while back (Kinlin XR200 to extralite hubs. I think if I rebuild those with these spokes, which is on out agenda for the future...we should get sub-1000g (or damned close) for an aluminum clincher wheelset... |
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I only skimmed it, but nothing seemed too crazy to me. |
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Yes these spokes in black would be 100% better |
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Wow, pretty cool. Seems like a less than elegant solution for the hub end. I was imagining they would loop around the hub hole or something... but I guess that actually wouldn't work very well.
And I love that the blue locktite is in a red container. You'd think they could come to an agreement with Permatex, them having the red in a blue container sure isn't better (actually worse!) |
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https://www.honeywell-spectra.com/products/fibers/ |
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how do you keep such flexible spokes from winding-up?
edit: "padded pliers to hold onto the spoke to prevent twisting" the end result is like tomac's tioga tension disc w/o the disc! Last edited by wallymann; 01-17-2018 at 11:21 AM. |
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Cool. I always like to see people trying new stuff, but I'd want to see a lot more data than "weight" and "pull strength" before jumping on board (the info available on their website). I'm open to some type of braided spoke performing better than a steel spoke, but a lot more goes into it than weight and strength.
How 'bout elastic modulus, fatigue life, UV resistance, impact/abrasion resistance, water/chemical resistance? Maybe some accelerated life test data from actual wheels. Aesthetics of the capture rods aside, I'm guessing a braided white spoke will be very difficult to clean. Basically, I'm open and optimistic about these spokes, but the company could do a lot more to build my confidence if indeed they have years of test data under their belt. |
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I would suspect to enable tangential spoke patterns.
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I also thought that spectra could be dyed. You can always grab some sharpies and go to town with any colour!
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