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Old 07-22-2018, 01:31 PM
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Thanks—must have missed that among the many threads joostxx has created as an excuse to post a picture of this bike.

(Not that I want him to stop, I like looking at it)
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Old 07-22-2018, 04:06 PM
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Thanks—must have missed that among the many threads joostxx has created as an excuse to post a picture of this bike.

(Not that I want him to stop, I like looking at it)
Ha ha - you outed me!
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Old 07-22-2018, 11:12 PM
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Keep it going!

“Is this a squirrel?” (bike pics)

“Is this a rock?” (bike pics)

Toss in a ride review of some sort ...
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Old 07-22-2018, 11:47 PM
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Pedals are personal. I have used Time Atacs 12's for years. They are super lightweight, engage well, and clear mud incredibly well.
Ah. I thought these might be the new Time Speciale 12. Been interested to hear about those.

Awesome bike regardless and great photos too
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Old 07-23-2018, 10:23 AM
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64 degrees? Awesome bike, just doesn't look that slack in any of the photos.
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Old 07-23-2018, 10:54 AM
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64 degrees? Awesome bike, just doesn't look that slack in any of the photos.
63.995 to be exact. you have a very good eye.
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Old 07-23-2018, 11:28 AM
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63.995 to be exact. you have a very good eye.
Ha! That's so slack! Very cool.
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Old 07-23-2018, 12:15 PM
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64 degrees? Awesome bike, just doesn't look that slack in any of the photos.

As someone who has been looking at a lot of bikes in the 66-67.5 HTA range over the last month or so, I was kinda thinking the same thing.

Awesome bike, sure it rides even better than it looks.
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Old 07-23-2018, 04:15 PM
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As someone who has been looking at a lot of bikes in the 66-67.5 HTA range over the last month or so, I was kinda thinking the same thing.

Awesome bike, sure it rides even better than it looks.
Maybe I got it wrong. I will check the build sheet.

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Old 07-23-2018, 06:19 PM
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i love how kris documents his thinking and process but holy hannah... welcome to the 21st century!
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:19 PM
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Maybe I got it wrong. I will check the build sheet.


Head tube angle appears to be 69

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Old 07-23-2018, 07:22 PM
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i love how kris documents his thinking and process but holy hannah... welcome to the 21st century!
I would argue Kris takes his time to make things perfect and avoids the hype. His process he builds prototypes and test them to see what works and does not. I have to commend him for doing this and just not following marketing trends or doing the same old thing.
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:24 PM
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Head tube angle appears to be 69

This sounds like ideal modern XC geometry!

69º is around where I would have pictured it, this bike below at 64º looks super choppered out.

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Old 07-23-2018, 07:32 PM
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This sounds like ideal modern XC geometry!

69º is around where I would have pictured it, this bike below at 64º looks super choppered out.

As you can tell the details of the bike I was not interested in. I was fitted by Whole Athlete in San Anselmo, CA (btw they had 4 winners and 6 podium finishes last weekend at MTB Nationals). Kris took the measurements and designed and built the bike with my limited input. It turned out great.
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Old 07-23-2018, 08:07 PM
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I would argue Kris takes his time to make things perfect and avoids the hype. His process he builds prototypes and test them to see what works and does not. I have to commend him for doing this and just not following marketing trends or doing the same old thing.
perhaps. it's worth noting that through his own process and testing, he's ended up in the same place as everyone else (longer top tube, shorter stem and slacker front) just several years later. progressive mtb design was a trend maybe 10 years ago, when everyone was telling keith scott he was crazy to spec a trail bike with a 67* HTA and laughing at mondrakers's ridiculously long top tubes and short stems ... now its pretty much consensus
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