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Old 08-15-2018, 11:16 AM
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Clean 39t has always posted positive and fun comments. He has gone thur more bikes in the past that I can keep track of. The best part is Dan seems to really enjoy the total package of our hobby. Riding, wrenching and hunting for the next bike to try. What is not to like? Stay passionate about our hobby and continue to have fun. My only complaint is that you are not my seize and since I also live in Oregon I could be enjoying some of your herd.
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:59 AM
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Old 08-15-2018, 12:51 PM
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another key place to look for inspiration in this genre of bikes is the work of Dario P, for the various race bikes he made over the years. I dont mean the extended head tube bikes - i mean the real race bikes he made for pros under various ghost names. there are quite a few out there, and darios bikes have carried quite a few professionals to the podium, as far as i know.

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Old 08-15-2018, 01:08 PM
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I had a blue Zurich with Rolf wheels and triple 9 speed Ultegra like one of these pix.
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Old 08-15-2018, 01:53 PM
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another key place to look for inspiration in this genre of bikes is the work of Dario P, for the various race bikes he made over the years. I dont mean the extended head tube bikes - i mean the real race bikes he made for pros under various ghost names. there are quite a few out there, and darios bikes have carried quite a few professionals to the podium, as far as i know.
So true. The best of all my bikes in my eyes (and butt) is my Giordana XL Super. Something magical about how all three of my Giordana's ride yet the XL is ever more superlative! Dario did the design on these and even made a few of the earlier ones himself according to Gita sources.



The other two I have are really, really good also!




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Old 08-15-2018, 02:11 PM
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My Sachs is for sale. If fits you. You will never need another steel bike after that. I had many, many steel bikes, none were better.
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Old 08-15-2018, 02:11 PM
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I also enjoy wrenching on bikes and talking about bikes and researching obscure bike stuff. It's all part of the hobby for me. I'm not losing sleep. This is FUN.
That is the truth, brother!
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Old 08-15-2018, 02:40 PM
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So true. The best of all my bikes in my eyes (and butt) is my Giordana XL Super. Something magical about how all three of my Giordana's ride yet the XL is ever more superlative! Dario did the design on these and even made a few of the earlier ones himself according to Gita sources.



The other two I have are really, really good also!



Any geo tables floating around for those that you've been able to find? Just curious how close/far off of his more recent work they are...
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Old 08-15-2018, 02:44 PM
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My Sachs is for sale. If fits you. You will never need another steel bike after that. I had many, many steel bikes, none were better.
Proportions aren't quite right for me, but it is a very nice looking frameset...not that I can afford it anyway
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Old 08-15-2018, 02:46 PM
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Proportions aren't quite right for me, but it is a very nice looking frameset...not that I can afford it anyway
I am sure they are perfect for you 61x58.5. You can ask Paul to build you something else
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Old 08-15-2018, 02:59 PM
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I'll take a #4 and a #6, super-sized.

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I'll take a #6 as is !

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Old 08-15-2018, 03:05 PM
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I have. And I do. It's the road race bike he was building twenty years ago. Back before people thought all quivers had to be killed...


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If it must be classic steel race on a budget that will give guidance for Paul's build, then Della Santa all the way.

Its what I based my discussion with Paul for my alloy frame on, he loves Roland's bikes and how they ride, and was a great foundation for the discussion I had with Paul.

Come down East Bay way and this one's yours to ride around while my fat butt gets dropped up Toyonal.

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Old 08-15-2018, 03:28 PM
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Any geo tables floating around for those that you've been able to find? Just curious how close/far off of his more recent work they are...
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:56 PM
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I had a 2000 something be Rosa neo primato that was great. Molteni paint, Lugged and Steel threadless fork. It fits into your narrow category I think.
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:56 PM
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If it must be classic steel race on a budget that will give guidance for Paul's build, then Della Santa all the way.

Its what I based my discussion with Paul for my alloy frame on, he loves Roland's bikes and how they ride, and was a great foundation for the discussion I had with Paul.

Come down East Bay way and this one's yours to ride around while my fat butt gets dropped up Toyonal.

That stem - those tires - the paint -

I appreciate the offer - doubt I'll be able to take you up on it in the next few weeks, but hopefully before the year is out!
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