Tour of Poland crash (8/5/20)

[rallizes]

Originally Posted by charliedid

Who won?

ha nice one

[weisan]

Sprinters are gladiators ...any post-race analysis, rules of engagement, penalties, disqualifications are quite moot. Yesterday's victim is tomorrow's aggressor and vice versa. They are all going after the same thing.

[robertbb]

Originally Posted by pdmtong

Recall Sagan "flicking" his elbow as Cav tried to squeeze into a space that wasn't there. Dangerous moves at very high speeds with the worst possible outcome for many riders.

I don't profess to know the rules perfectly, but as far as I can tell the difference is that in the Sagan/Cav incident the space wasn't there for Cav. In this case, there was plenty of space and the GV deliberately edged right... not OK.

[teleguy57]

Agree with the comments about consistent application of rules, as uncomfortable as that may be to race juries.

And doesn't Groenewegen have some history of this kind of stuff?

[Veloo]

Vid with a few different angles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UrDC6jz1NY

[haruharu]

Originally Posted by ddtn

He shut the door because he knew he was losing the sprint. Simple as that.

Nothing Jakobsen could've done differently, except maybe picking a different line. But it's pro racing and taking this fairly common risk shouldn't put him in a coma.

Groenewegen fvcked up big time.

Despite the gravity of the situation, the guy seems to be making satire with the typos? Is he a big name in cycling?

[haruharu]

Originally Posted by homagesilkhope

This happened last week at Burgos, Stage 4, in the group sprint for second after Sam Bennett's red-kite escape. Demare veers into an overtaking Nizzolo and forces him to stop pedaling to avoid crashing himself and others. Nobody went down, and no mention of it later as far as I could tell. Call it what you will. The rule is clear. For me, not relegating Demare only incentivizes him (and everyone else) to keep it up. Ejecting him would have sent a real, clear message. Tough love.

¡Vai, vai!

http://www.cyclingfans.com/node/43111

Thanks for sharing

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by SteveW

The win was awarded to Jakobson, DG was disqualified.
I don't know if he was DQ'ed from the race or just relegated on the stage.

Thanks

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by weisan

Sprinters are gladiators ...any post-race analysis, rules of engagement, penalties, disqualifications are quite moot. Yesterday's victim is tomorrow's aggressor and vice versa. They are all going after the same thing.

No doubt, this is not an office job. Sprinting.

[pasadena]

latest from DQS
"Our rider was involved in a crash that took place inside the final meters of the Tour de Pologne’s opening stage.

Fabio Jakobsen’s situation is serious but at the moment he is stable. Diagnostic test didn’t reveal brain or spinal injury, but because of the gravity of his multiple injuries he is still kept in a comatose condition and has to remain closely monitored in the following days at the Wojewódzki Szpital in Katowice.

Further information will be made available in the course of the coming hours. Meanwhile, we would like to thank you for your heartwarming support."

[JWB475]

1) A downhill sprint finish?

2) In a video taken from behind the finish line facing the riders, you can see the course actually narrows as they approach the finish line by probably 2-3 feet funneling them into an even narrower space.

3) The barriers appear to be completely worthless, they should not explode upon impact. You would think we could design some barriers that might offer just a bit of protection, or at the very least not completely disintegrate. But hey, look at all that pretty advertising!

The entire finishing sprint design seems incredibly dangerous, it is unfortunate that the cyclist union does absolutely nothing to protect these riders.

[happycampyer]

Originally Posted by haruharu

Despite the gravity of the situation, the guy seems to be making satire with the typos? Is he a big name in cycling?

Patrick Lefevre? Probably the most successful DS in cycling ever.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Lefevere

I don’t think it’s satire. “Criminel” is the French spelling of “criminal.” Lefevre is Belgian, so English is probably his second or third language. I think he’s just outraged. His previous tweet was: “ They have to put this guy of
@TeamJumbo in jail 😡”

[barnabyjones]

Originally Posted by JWB475

1) A downhill sprint finish?

2) In a video taken from behind the finish line facing the riders, you can see the course actually narrows as they approach the finish line by probably 2-3 feet funneling them into an even narrower space.

3) The barriers appear to be completely worthless, they should not explode upon impact. You would think we could design some barriers that might offer just a bit of protection, or at the very least not completely disintegrate. But hey, look at all that pretty advertising!

The entire finishing sprint design seems incredibly dangerous, it is unfortunate that the cyclist union does absolutely nothing to protect these riders.

Agreed. The speeds look abnormally high. And the riders are being funneled to the right. Arms appear to be flailing due to momentum and not bumping.

[ahsere]

In the European press there seems to be a consensus that this was reckless/borderline criminal and that is not the first time for him. Also quite a bit of complaining about the stupidity of having a downhill sprint finish, they say they were going at 80 km/hour. Lots of blame to go around, and two people in a coma. Many of the riders said that they have complained about this finish in the past and nothing happened, really makes you question whether the organizers care about the riders’ safety at all.

[echappist]

Last time he pulled this stunt, he got away with it...

https://youtu.be/IbNvgAxjTeQ