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Old 09-02-2019, 12:14 PM
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1x for Road anyone doing it?

I have been using my CX/Gravel bike (700x32c smooth tires) with a 44T chainring and a 11-32T cassette on the road with no issues.
1x is perfect for me. If you never use your smaller chainring, 1x will probably work for you too.

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Old 09-02-2019, 12:21 PM
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As ever, terrain and preference dependent. For road, doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I used every gear combo of my 50/34 + 11-28 yesterday and wouldn't want to sacrifice on either end or have huge gaps.

Offroad, sure. Most setups would put you spinning in the 11-12t on the way to/from the dirt, which is a drag.

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Old 09-02-2019, 02:18 PM
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I rode the Kirk MRB I had 1x for about 1,000 miles this season and the majority was spent on the road. I started out with a 40t up front and 11-32 in the beginning and swapped in a 34t absolute black oval ring and went 11-34 in the rear.

I ride solo 99% of my rides. These combos worked for the hilly off road terrain. The 34t oval up front made for ideal climbing, but spun out downhill and on the flats when pushing it.

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Old 09-02-2019, 09:15 PM
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I like not having a FD to shift, clean, adjust or give any thought to otherwise. But some the gaps with an 11-32 can be kind of a bummer of you're used to a tighter cassette. If you don't mind using a wide range of cadences I think you'll be just fine.

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Old 09-02-2019, 09:31 PM
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I like not having a FD to shift, clean, adjust or give any thought to otherwise. But some the gaps with an 11-32 can be kind of a bummer of you're used to a tighter cassette. If you don't mind using a wide range of cadences I think you'll be just fine.

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If you think an 11-32 has rough gaps, better not try an 11-42, 11-46, etc. which are required to get around a 1:1 low gear and still have a decent top end speed in a 1x setup.
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Old 09-03-2019, 05:45 AM
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Yeah I'm pretty much writing off top end race speed.

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Old 09-03-2019, 09:43 AM
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As far as the problems introduced with front derailleurs, let me say this:

Double chainrings with front derailelurs are the worst kind of drivetrain - except for all the other kinds of drivetrains.

To get the range of gearing to cover all the kinds of riding I do, and also have reasonable jumps between adjacent gear ratios, I'd need 14 or 15 gear ratios. Currently, no 1x derailleur system has this number of ratios, so I'd either have to live with a too narrow range of gearing, or large jumps between gear ratios. The Rohloff Speedhub has 14 gear ratios and a large range of gearing (plus it is lower maintenance than a derailleur drivetrain), but it is also very heavy and very expensive, and may not have as high an efficiency as a derailleur system.

So, the alternative is to have 2nd chainring and a front derailleur, which can increase the number of available gear ratios by 3 or 4 (over a single chainring drivetrain). Front derailleurs and shifters have become quite fast and reliable in recent years, so the pros outweigh the cons. Despite the added complexity the double chainring introduces, it is still superior to a 1x system.
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Old 09-03-2019, 09:54 AM
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My first foray into 1x was probably 10+ years ago. I had setup an older sport touring type road frame to be a 1x5 loaded down with rear panniers. I did Pittsburgh to Gettysburg in 3 days, with a lot of mileage on Route 30.

Some of the climbs were killers, but I liked the simplicity and when 1x came around again, I was all for it.

Current setup is Kelly Knobby X with Rival 1. 40t front and 11 - 36 cassette. I originally used a 42t ring, but with the 40t, I'm spending much more time right in the middle of the cassette. Sometimes I feel like I should have gone with a wider range cassette, but that's usually only if I am riding around with groceries or rear steep stuff on loose terrain.

I'm just about to swap my commuter from SS to Microshift's new Advent lineup and run 1x9, super excited about it.
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Old 09-03-2019, 10:01 AM
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Not even a fan of 1x offroad; going to 12s and gripshift made it tolerable (as you very often have to shift 5 or 6 cogs). On a mainstream road bike: no way. Another solution looking for a problem. Like the new SRAM road ring combo.
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Old 09-03-2019, 03:36 PM
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If you think an 11-32 has rough gaps, better not try an 11-42, 11-46, etc. which are required to get around a 1:1 low gear and still have a decent top end speed in a 1x setup.


I don’t know your area, but it is hard to see a need for a 1:1 low gear on the road.
On a MTB, off-road, that’s a different story.
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Old 09-03-2019, 04:05 PM
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I don’t know your area, but it is hard to see a need for a 1:1 low gear on the road.
On a MTB, off-road, that’s a different story.
Sure, but to get 34:28, a common low gear for road bikes, and keep the 50:11 (which definitely gets use out here pedaling downhill), you'd need an 11-42. Which is bonkers. Anything less than a 46:11 is going to get spun out fast.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:18 PM
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I decided to stop thinking about if its going to be adequate or not. I just got a sweet deal on a 3T Strada - So i took the bait, I'm going all in.
Road, Gravel and Fat all 1x.

I'll report back in 1000 miles.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:48 PM
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Sure, but to get 34:28, a common low gear for road bikes, and keep the 50:11 (which definitely gets use out here pedaling downhill), you'd need an 11-42. Which is bonkers. Anything less than a 46:11 is going to get spun out fast.


How many times is one on the 34:28 combination? Or in the 52:11 combination?
Perhaps all he/she needs is a 46t chainring and a 11-28t cassette, or a 48t chainring with a 11-32t cassette.
A person needs to decide how fast he/she wants to go and how much climbing help he/she needs and go from there.
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Old 09-03-2019, 09:19 PM
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How many times is one on the 34:28 combination? Or in the 52:11 combination?
Perhaps all he/she needs is a 46t chainring and a 11-28t cassette, or a 48t chainring with a 11-32t cassette.
A person needs to decide how fast he/she wants to go and how much climbing help he/she needs and go from there.

I could not agree more. I have spent last couple of weeks paying attention to what gears I'm spending the majority of my rides in. It's just not that steep around here that I'm ever in the 34/28 for long if at all on a ride and on the other end winding up the 50/11 is fun but at around 35-40mph I just tuck. My days of hammering down hills like a viking are done. Between unpredictable drivers and wonky uneven shoulders Its just too sketchy for me. I only go as fast as I'm willing to hit the pavement.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:52 AM
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1x for Road anyone doing it?

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I decided to stop thinking about if its going to be adequate or not. I just got a sweet deal on a 3T Strada - So i took the bait, I'm going all in.

Road, Gravel and Fat all 1x.



I'll report back in 1000 miles.


Congrats on the new bike! What gears does it come with? And don’t forget the pictures.
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