Do I really "need" Sram Etap?

[fogrider]

if you want it and it's not taking food off your table, get it.

I don't really care what I'm shifting with as long as the shifts are good. I have DA 9000, Di2, Campy Record 10 speed and it all shifts good. The great thing about electronic shifting is that there are no long throws with the levers.

for etap, be sure to carry an extra battery and you're be fine. Also, be sure to remove the battery when transporting the bike (it detects movement and the system stays on and drains the battery).

[dpk501]

Originally Posted by dbnm

I've got Sram Etap on my brain.

My Moots has full Dura Ace 9000.

Talk me out of it.

Umm....you know we are all enablers here right?

[simonov]

Originally Posted by kramnnim

Overrated. And the paddles are backwards.

The paddles move the chain towards the paddle that was clicked. That's pretty intuitive.

To the OP, eTap won't change your life, but it's good. Very good.

[mcteague]

Tim

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by dbnm

I've got Sram Etap on my brain.

My Moots has full Dura Ace 9000.

Talk me out of it.

Go feel the levers, then decide. Easy setup, 'different' shift protocol..not a lot of connectivity yet for an 'e' group(if you are looking for that). 4 batteries...

Go ride one also..

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by simonov

The paddles move the chain towards the paddle that was clicked. That's pretty intuitive.

To the OP, eTap won't change your life, but it's good. Very good.

Except for the fder..----->>>>

And you move the right hand lever towards the bike but the chain moves away from the bike..same for LH lever..--->>

[ergott]

Etap is the most lizard brain friendly shifting protocol I've ridden (all 3 mechanical groups, and Di2). In fact, I believe if all shifting were developed today they would have copied Sram Etap if they could. It makes the most sense. You shift the rear far more than the front so it shifts like any car would. The double lever tap for front rings is deliberate, no mistakes. Added bonus, you can easily shift with any sort of mitts on your hands since there's no other paddle to accidentally click. That's an issue with Di2.

When I go back to my other bikes with Shimano or Campagnolo I realize how much simpler Etap is. I love Super Record mechanical for other reasons, but Etap just works.

[glepore]

Etap is nice, but really no better than Da9000. Front shifting isn't shimano quality. Good, but Di2 is better.

If you have a frameset that is mechanical only and you "must" have electronic, then sure. If not, I really think that Shimano has a slight edge is shift quality.

[simonov]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Except for the fder..----->>>>

And you move the right hand lever towards the bike but the chain moves away from the bike..same for LH lever..--->>

Well, it wouldn't make much sense to have to pull a button away from the lever. Using your logic Shimano isn't useful either because the little paddle goes towards the frame to move the chain away from the frame. I've said this in pretty much every thread about eTap where people argue that it doesn't make sense...I switch between eTap, sram mechanical, campy mechanical and shimano mechanical almost every day. eTap is the only one that doesn't require any thought after riding something else.

[kramnnim]

Originally Posted by simonov

The paddles move the chain towards the paddle that was clicked. That's pretty intuitive.

Not intuitive for someone who has been using Campy shifters for years and years

[kramnnim]

Originally Posted by simonov

eTap is the only one that doesn't require any thought after riding something else.

After the aforementioned years of Campy, my brain is programmed to "hit right paddle for relief" when I need a lower gear. So when I try to ride my bike with eTap, I end up with a harder gear and it sucks. lol. If SRAM would just let us reprogram it with the currently useless USB stick, I'd be so pleased.

[93KgBike]

Originally Posted by ergott

Etap is the most lizard brain friendly shifting protocol I've ridden (all 3 mechanical groups, and Di2). In fact, I believe if all shifting were developed today they would have copied Sram Etap if they could. It makes the most sense. You shift the rear far more than the front so it shifts like any car would. The double lever tap for front rings is deliberate, no mistakes. Added bonus, you can easily shift with any sort of mitts on your hands since there's no other paddle to accidentally click. That's an issue with Di2.

When I go back to my other bikes with Shimano or Campagnolo I realize how much simpler Etap is. I love Super Record mechanical for other reasons, but Etap just works.

That could be ad-copy! You certainly made me want to go try it.

What is it about SR11 Mech that you like so much? I've been thinking of selling my R10 Pro and moving on...

[sparky33]

Originally Posted by FlashUNC

eTap is legit.

bump for correctness.

[ergott]

Originally Posted by 93KgBike

That could be ad-copy! You certainly made me want to go try it.

What is it about SR11 Mech that you like so much? I've been thinking of selling my R10 Pro and moving on...

SR11 has all the feel of the perfect manual gearbox (car talk). Very positive clunk without requiring significant effort for gear changes. The throw from little to big ring is much quicker than the 10 Campagnolo stuff I've used over the years.

[benb]

My plan is to wear out what I've got and then try it out.

If you've got DA 9000 and it's not worn out why bother with changing?

I just figure now that I've gone and bought into a bike with internal cabling when it's time to spend the money I might as well get eTap and forget about ever having to thread cables through the frame again. (Except for that pesky rear brake...)