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Old 03-15-2018, 03:23 PM
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100% Agree. I'd be willing to bet that the Redshift stem with the elastomer inserts paired with a normal gravel bar would offer more "compliance" (hate that word), while also being lighter, offering more positional and accessory flexibility, and looking a whole lot less goofy.
One knock against suspension stems is that the stiffness varies with the stem length (longer stems flex more). But it looks like Canyon solved this problem by only providing one stem length!
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:49 PM
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While something may make sense from an engineering standpoint it doesn't mean that it's a good idea in real life.
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:50 PM
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I'm not quite sure why, but this all just gives me a headache. I'm going for a ride.

On old bars made of steel...
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Old 03-15-2018, 05:24 PM
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I'm not violently against it. BUT like any bar/stem combo, its very limiting on fit and tilt and all the little adjustments that individualize the installation. I would like to try it and see...at least it doesn't add the weight that the Future Shock does on a Specialized.

As for the double idea, there is only one person who can pull that off. Ten points to anyone under thirty who knows who this is....

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Old 03-15-2018, 07:42 PM
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Can you imagine the design meetings where they came up with this tragedy? It would be bike geek comedy. Off to a roaring start in the US market

What about the tilt of the bar? Folks are particular about that
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Old 03-15-2018, 07:48 PM
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As for the double idea, there is only one person who can pull that off.
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But the <30-year-olds are still at a disadvantage.
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Old 03-15-2018, 08:17 PM
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And anyone under 40 has em beat on two turntables and a microphone.
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Old 03-15-2018, 08:37 PM
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You guys are missing the obvious benefit-- more places to hang laundry. I just might be looking at my next trainer bike here.
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Old 03-15-2018, 08:40 PM
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That middle cross bar seems much like the Hooker Legal Speed aero bar:



(There was another similar product, but I can't remember the name of it.)

As far as I know the Hooker Legal Speed bar is still legal for USCF racing, although I'm not sure how the UCI would look upon it.

From the photos of the Hover bar, what I'm wondering is how that crossbar affects hand position in the drops? Do your thumbs go above or below the bar? And what if you are using Campagnolo levers - does the cross bar get in the way of moving your thumb to the upshift lever/button?
BreakawayBar. We just went through this exercise in another thread!

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Old 03-15-2018, 08:57 PM
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I'm not violently against it. BUT like any bar/stem combo, its very limiting on fit and tilt and all the little adjustments that individualize the installation. I would like to try it and see...at least it doesn't add the weight that the Future Shock does on a Specialized.

As for the double idea, there is only one person who can pull that off. Ten points to anyone under thirty who knows who this is....

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What did I win?
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Old 03-15-2018, 09:01 PM
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But the <30-year-olds are still at a disadvantage.
Rex B.?
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I decided instead of ten points, your prize is another time warp. More if you can name la pelicula.


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Old 03-15-2018, 09:03 PM
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Old 03-15-2018, 09:05 PM
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Old 03-15-2018, 10:23 PM
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Ack!

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I decided instead of ten points, your prize is another time warp.
How about we warp into Outer Sp"ACE"?
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