DT Swiss rr411:could be replacement of Belgium?

[alexchoi]

Originally Posted by thegunner

yeah man, just leave it. the frame stands out on its own, who needs silver spokes?

Hmm.. mavic wheels are great but their service—wheel balancing and oiling— is kinda annoying.

[alexchoi]

Originally Posted by jtbadge

+1 for Archetypes. Especially the grey/'hard ano' version.









All bikes need silver spokes.

Dat wheels are so dope!

[mhespenheide]

Originally Posted by jtbadge

All bikes need silver spokes.

Normally, I'd agree with you, but as colorful as that frame is, I'd stick with black spokes. And go with black cages.

But then, I think I'm too picky about the aesthetics of my bikes. I've held off on certain frames because I don't like the font...

[alexchoi]

Originally Posted by mhespenheide

Normally, I'd agree with you, but as colorful as that frame is, I'd stick with black spokes. And go with black cages.

But then, I think I'm too picky about the aesthetics of my bikes. I've held off on certain frames because I don't like the font...

You exactly knows what I supposed when i build this bike!
After a year, i want to give small change on my bike.
Check out the pic. I think it is not that bad with silver spokes.

[sg8357]

The DT 411 rims come with washers and AL squorx pro head nipples.

These are the brass versions, Pro head, without squorx shape.
https://www.dtswiss.com/en/products/...s/dt-pro-head/

Only found black version in the States, the shiny version was in Germany.

Rims do build up easily.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by sg8357

The DT 411 rims come with washers and AL squorx pro head nipples.

These are the brass versions, Pro head, without squorx shape.
https://www.dtswiss.com/en/products/...s/dt-pro-head/

Only found black version in the States, the shiny version was in Germany.

Rims do build up easily.

I've just used Sapim Secure Lock brass nipps on one or two occasions when I couldn't get the brass Squorx and the rear had to have brass nipples.

BUT gotta use the supplied washers.

[DRZRM]

I've heard nothing but good things about the DT Swiss RR 411, but as far as a replacement for the HED Belgium, the RR 411 has a rider weight limit of 110 kg. As a 6'3" Clydesdale at ~220, I'm well under that limit kitted out even this time of year, but I'd choose a bit more weight and durability. Obviously this does not apply to smaller riders, but I've beaten up a several sets of 10 speed Record laced to HED Belgium 2s, on my cross/gravel/commuter for years and they have been flawless. I'd be much more careful on this rim, especially if it would see any offroad use at all.

[skiezo]

I just had a set of these built up by my LBS. They are laced to 240 hubs 20f 1x/28r2x with black DT comps and silver brass nipples. I was gonna go with HED but with the price difference and I have two sets of HED built up already. The weight is 691gr.F 845grR. I am gonna mount some 25c tires and see what they plump up to. I have a few choices laying around. Veloflex,Cont. and Vittoria.

[Black Dog]

The DT R460 is a close analogue to the HED Belgium in terms of mass and dimensions.

[skiezo]

I just mounted a pair of Pave CG 3 tires on the DT 411 wheels. They are at 25.7mm @80psi. I will see how these hold up.
It has been a looong time since I mounted a set of clinchers.
I would rather mount a set of stretched tubulars any day of the week. A little more time consuming but so much easier.

[Gummee]

I built a pair of 411 wheels on DT Swiss/Bontrager hubs about a year ago. Still hanging in the garage... I've got many other wheels for the 2 remaining rim-brake bikes...

Next up: re-hub those rims with more DT Swiss hubs so they'll fit the 'all disc, all the time' ethos that's coming to a garage near me

M

[teleguy57]

Originally Posted by alexchoi

Dat wheels are so dope!

I see you're in Seoul, so to help with the language "dat" is singular; you can use "dem" or dose" as plural.

Of course, that's if you absolutely have to

[campy man]

Originally Posted by skiezo

I just mounted a pair of Pave CG 3 tires on the DT 411 wheels. They are at 25.7mm @80psi. I will see how these hold up.
It has been a looong time since I mounted a set of clinchers.
I would rather mount a set of stretched tubulars any day of the week. A little more time consuming but so much easier.

I have been riding a wheelset with Record(32H), 14/15 DB Sapim spokes & 411 rims. No gravel riding but the usual potholes and broken pavement riding in the city are no big deal. At 220lbs I can't imagine a nicer riding wheelset.


https://forums.thepaceline.net/showt...ting+clinchers

I only ride Open Pave 27mm tires, with tubeless rim tape and holding the bead in the center channel the tires mount with finger pressure only.

[rap1962]

Originally Posted by alexchoi

You exactly knows what I supposed when i build this bike!
After a year, i want to give small change on my bike.
Check out the pic. I think it is not that bad with silver spokes.

I agree, this bike looks much, much better with the silver spokes. It makes the frame pop more. The black spokes were too much of a contrast against the light colored frame and was more distracting than enhancing of the look of the paint.
Nice Job

[muz]

Originally Posted by rap1962

I agree, this bike looks much, much better with the silver spokes. It makes the frame pop more. The black spokes were too much of a contrast against the light colored frame and was more distracting than enhancing of the look of the paint.
Nice Job

Welcome to the forum. Strange that you chose to bump a 1.5 year old thread as your first post